From: Richard Henderson <rth@twiddle.net>
To: "Emilio G. Cota" <cota@braap.org>
Cc: "QEMU Developers" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
"MTTCG Devel" <mttcg@greensocs.com>,
"Alex Bennée" <alex.bennee@linaro.org>,
"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
"Peter Crosthwaite" <crosthwaite.peter@gmail.com>,
"Peter Maydell" <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
"Sergey Fedorov" <serge.fdrv@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 11/11] translate-all: add tb hash bucket info to 'info jit' dump
Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2016 12:46:08 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <571D2280.3040908@twiddle.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160422235738.GA2410@flamenco>
On 04/22/2016 04:57 PM, Emilio G. Cota wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 12:59:52 -0700, Richard Henderson wrote:
>> FWIW, so that I could get an idea of how the stats change as we improve the
>> hashing, I inserted the attachment 1 patch between patches 5 and 6, and with
>> attachment 2 attempting to fix the accounting for patches 9 and 10.
>
> For qht, I dislike the approach of reporting "avg chain" per-element,
> instead of per-bucket. Performance for a bucket whose entries are
> all valid is virtually the same as that of a bucket that only
> has one valid element; thus, with per-bucket reporting, we'd say that
> the chain lenght is 1 in both cases, i.e. "perfect". With per-element
> reporting, we'd report 4 (on a 64-bit host, since that's the value of
> QHT_BUCKET_ENTRIES) when the bucket is full, which IMO gives the
> wrong idea (users would think they're in trouble, when they're not).
But otherwise you have no way of knowing how full the buckets are. The bucket
size is just something that you have to keep in mind.
> If those numbers are off, then either this
> assert(hinfo.used_entries ==
> tcg_ctx.tb_ctx.nb_tbs - tcg_ctx.tb_ctx.tb_phys_invalidate_count);
> should trigger, or the accounting isn't right.
I think I used an NDEBUG build, so these weren't effective.
> Only the second report ("after 7/11") seems good (taking into account
> lack of precision of just 3 decimals):
> 5.26*32582=171381.32 ~= 171367
> which leads me to believe that you've used the TB and invalidate
> counts from that test.
The TB and invalidate numbers are repeatable; the same every time.
> You can try, but I think performance wouldn't be great, because
> the comparison function would be called way too often due to the
> ht using open addressing. The problem there is not only the comparisons
> themselves, but the all the cache lines needed to read the fields of
> the comparison. I haven't tested libiberty's htable but I did test
> the htable in concurrencykit[1], which also uses open addressing.
You are right that having the full hash for primary comparison is a big win,
especially with how complex our comparison functions are. And you're right
that we have to have two of them.
> This led me to a design that had buckets with a small set of
> hash & pointer pairs, all in the same cache line as the head (then
> I discovered somebody else had thought of this, and that's why there's
> a link to the CLHT paper in qht.c).
Fair. It's a good design.
r~
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-04-24 19:46 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-04-19 23:07 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 00/11] tb hash improvements Emilio G. Cota
2016-04-19 23:07 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 01/11] compiler.h: add QEMU_ALIGNED() to enforce struct alignment Emilio G. Cota
2016-04-22 9:32 ` Alex Bennée
2016-04-22 9:35 ` Peter Maydell
2016-04-22 15:50 ` Emilio G. Cota
2016-04-19 23:07 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 02/11] seqlock: remove optional mutex Emilio G. Cota
2016-04-19 23:07 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 03/11] seqlock: rename write_lock/unlock to write_begin/end Emilio G. Cota
2016-04-19 23:07 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 04/11] include/processor.h: define cpu_relax() Emilio G. Cota
2016-04-20 12:15 ` KONRAD Frederic
2016-04-20 17:16 ` Emilio G. Cota
2016-04-20 17:18 ` Peter Maydell
2016-04-20 17:32 ` [Qemu-devel] [UPDATED " Emilio G. Cota
2016-04-22 9:35 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH " Alex Bennée
2016-04-19 23:07 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 05/11] qemu-thread: add simple test-and-set spinlock Emilio G. Cota
2016-04-20 15:18 ` Richard Henderson
2016-04-20 17:17 ` Emilio G. Cota
2016-04-20 17:55 ` Richard Henderson
2016-04-20 18:11 ` Emilio G. Cota
2016-04-20 19:39 ` Richard Henderson
2016-04-21 16:24 ` Emilio G. Cota
2016-04-20 17:35 ` [Qemu-devel] [UPDATED " Emilio G. Cota
2016-04-19 23:07 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 06/11] exec: add tb_hash_func5, derived from xxhash Emilio G. Cota
2016-04-20 15:19 ` Richard Henderson
2016-04-22 12:58 ` Alex Bennée
2016-04-19 23:07 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 07/11] tb hash: hash phys_pc, pc, and flags with xxhash Emilio G. Cota
2016-04-22 12:58 ` Alex Bennée
2016-04-19 23:07 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 08/11] qht: QEMU's fast, resizable and scalable Hash Table Emilio G. Cota
2016-04-22 14:04 ` Alex Bennée
2016-04-24 20:01 ` Richard Henderson
2016-04-24 21:58 ` Emilio G. Cota
2016-04-19 23:07 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 09/11] qht: add test program Emilio G. Cota
2016-04-22 14:35 ` Alex Bennée
2016-04-19 23:07 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 10/11] tb hash: track translated blocks with qht Emilio G. Cota
2016-04-28 13:27 ` Alex Bennée
2016-04-19 23:07 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 11/11] translate-all: add tb hash bucket info to 'info jit' dump Emilio G. Cota
2016-04-20 15:21 ` Richard Henderson
2016-04-22 14:38 ` Alex Bennée
2016-04-22 17:41 ` Richard Henderson
2016-04-22 19:23 ` Emilio G. Cota
2016-04-22 19:59 ` Richard Henderson
2016-04-22 23:57 ` Emilio G. Cota
2016-04-24 19:46 ` Richard Henderson [this message]
2016-04-24 22:06 ` Emilio G. Cota
2016-04-27 2:43 ` Emilio G. Cota
2016-04-28 16:37 ` Richard Henderson
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