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From: "Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <philmd@redhat.com>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Wainer dos Santos Moschetta <wainersm@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Cc: kwolf@redhat.com, peter.maydell@linaro.org,
	"Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>,
	Max Reitz <mreitz@redhat.com>, Greg Kurz <groug@kaod.org>,
	stefanha@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [RFC] Move tools sources to the tools directory (was Re: [PATCH v2] MAINTAINERS: Fix the location of tools manuals)
Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2021 18:42:45 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <573fa4c4-6092-09ac-be49-0cc18af72a1a@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <affe4e6c-8f3e-1ec2-5a6f-6da31a2ced98@redhat.com>

On 2/4/21 3:40 PM, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> On 04/02/21 15:22, Wainer dos Santos Moschetta wrote:
>>>> -F: docs/interop/virtfs-proxy-helper.rst
>>>> +F: docs/tools/virtfs-proxy-helper.rst
>>>
>>> Unrelated, but Paolo once said helpers are not tools.
> 
> I think helpers is not a good word.  However, if an executable:
> 
> - can be started directly by QEMU, or is not useful without an emulator
> 
> - is usually too complex for a user to run manually
> 
> then it should be documented in docs/interop (not docs/tools).  Their
> sources however can be in tools/, that's not a problem at all.

I understand tools can be built/used standalone (no dependence),
while helpers are companion of another binary, thus dependent on it:

- we can build tools without emulator
- it is probably pointless to build an helper without its helpee
- some binaries can't be use without helpers

Maybe "companion" is a better candidate to describe?



  reply	other threads:[~2021-02-04 18:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-02-04 13:54 [PATCH v2] MAINTAINERS: Fix the location of tools manuals Wainer dos Santos Moschetta
2021-02-04 13:59 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2021-02-04 14:22   ` [RFC] Move tools sources to the tools directory (was Re: [PATCH v2] MAINTAINERS: Fix the location of tools manuals) Wainer dos Santos Moschetta
2021-02-04 14:31     ` Peter Maydell
2021-02-04 14:40       ` Kevin Wolf
2021-02-04 14:47         ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-02-04 14:50           ` Peter Maydell
2021-02-04 15:02             ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-02-04 15:06               ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-02-04 17:37                 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2021-02-04 17:39                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-02-04 15:04             ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-02-04 14:57           ` Kevin Wolf
2021-02-04 14:47         ` Peter Maydell
2021-02-04 14:40     ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-02-04 17:42       ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé [this message]
2021-02-04 17:55         ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-02-04 18:24     ` Eric Blake
2021-02-04 20:57     ` John Snow
2021-03-09 17:41   ` [PATCH v2] MAINTAINERS: Fix the location of tools manuals Wainer dos Santos Moschetta
2021-03-09 19:48     ` Thomas Huth
2021-03-09 20:44       ` Laurent Vivier
2021-03-09 22:54       ` Greg Kurz

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