From: Sergey Fedorov <serge.fdrv@gmail.com>
To: Richard Henderson <rth@twiddle.net>,
Pranith Kumar <bobby.prani@gmail.com>,
"open list:All patches CC here" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>
Cc: serge.fdrv@linaro.org, alex.bennee@linaro.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 PATCH 01/13] Introduce TCGOpcode for memory barrier
Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2016 00:37:41 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5750A725.2050303@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8e9b8569-89a5-845a-a856-7f2fa4435659@twiddle.net>
On 03/06/16 00:18, Richard Henderson wrote:
> On 06/02/2016 01:38 PM, Sergey Fedorov wrote:
>> On 02/06/16 23:36, Richard Henderson wrote:
>>> On 06/02/2016 09:30 AM, Sergey Fedorov wrote:
>>>> I think we need to extend TCG load/store instruction attributes to
>>>> provide information about guest ordering requirements and leave
>>>> this TCG
>>>> operation only for explicit barrier instruction translation.
>>>
>>> I do not agree. I think separate barriers are much cleaner and easier
>>> to manage and reason with.
>>>
>>
>> How are we going to emulate strongly-ordered guests on weakly-ordered
>> hosts then? I think if every load/store operation must specify which
>> ordering it implies then this task would be quite simple.
>
> Hum. That does seem helpful-ish. But I'm not certain how helpful it
> is to complicate the helper functions even further.
>
> What if we have tcg_canonicalize_memop (or some such) split off the
> barriers into separate opcodes. E.g.
>
> MO_BAR_LD_B = 32 // prevent earlier loads from crossing current op
> MO_BAR_ST_B = 64 // prevent earlier stores from crossing current op
> MO_BAR_LD_A = 128 // prevent later loads from crossing current op
> MO_BAR_ST_A = 256 // prevent later stores from crossing current op
> MO_BAR_LDST_B = MO_BAR_LD_B | MO_BAR_ST_B
> MO_BAR_LDST_A = MO_BAR_LD_A | MO_BAR_ST_A
> MO_BAR_MASK = MO_BAR_LDST_B | MO_BAR_LDST_A
>
> // Match Sparc MEMBAR as the most flexible host.
> TCG_BAR_LD_LD = 1 // #LoadLoad barrier
> TCG_BAR_ST_LD = 2 // #StoreLoad barrier
> TCG_BAR_LD_ST = 4 // #LoadStore barrier
> TCG_BAR_ST_ST = 8 // #StoreStore barrier
> TCG_BAR_SYNC = 64 // SEQ_CST barrier
>
> where
>
> tcg_gen_qemu_ld_i32(x, y, i, m | MO_BAR_LD_BEFORE | MO_BAR_ST_AFTER)
>
> emits
>
> mb TCG_BAR_LD_LD
> qemu_ld_i32 x, y, i, m
> mb TCG_BAR_LD_ST
>
> We can then add an optimization pass which folds barriers with no
> memory operations in between, so that duplicates are eliminated.
It would give us three TCG operations for each memory operation instead
of one. But then we might like to combine these barrier operations back
with memory operations in each backend. If we propagate memory ordering
semantics up to the backend, it can decide itself what instructions are
best to generate.
So I would just focus on translating only explicit memory barrier
operations for now.
Kind regards,
Sergey
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-06-02 21:37 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-05-31 18:39 [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 PATCH 00/13] tcg: Add fence gen support Pranith Kumar
2016-05-31 18:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 PATCH 01/13] Introduce TCGOpcode for memory barrier Pranith Kumar
2016-05-31 20:24 ` Richard Henderson
2016-06-01 18:43 ` Pranith Kumar
2016-06-01 21:35 ` Richard Henderson
2016-06-02 16:18 ` Sergey Fedorov
2016-06-02 16:30 ` Sergey Fedorov
2016-06-02 18:42 ` Pranith Kumar
2016-06-02 20:36 ` Richard Henderson
2016-06-02 20:36 ` Richard Henderson
2016-06-02 20:38 ` Sergey Fedorov
2016-06-02 21:18 ` Richard Henderson
2016-06-02 21:37 ` Sergey Fedorov [this message]
2016-06-03 1:08 ` Richard Henderson
2016-06-03 15:16 ` Sergey Fedorov
2016-06-03 15:45 ` Richard Henderson
2016-06-03 16:06 ` Sergey Fedorov
2016-06-03 18:30 ` Pranith Kumar
2016-06-03 19:49 ` Sergey Fedorov
2016-06-03 20:43 ` Peter Maydell
2016-06-03 21:33 ` Sergey Fedorov
2016-06-06 16:19 ` Alex Bennée
2016-06-03 18:27 ` Pranith Kumar
2016-06-03 19:52 ` Sergey Fedorov
2016-06-06 15:44 ` Sergey Fedorov
2016-06-06 15:47 ` Pranith Kumar
2016-06-06 15:49 ` Sergey Fedorov
2016-06-06 15:58 ` Pranith Kumar
2016-06-06 16:14 ` Sergey Fedorov
2016-06-06 17:11 ` Pranith Kumar
2016-06-06 19:23 ` Richard Henderson
2016-06-06 19:28 ` Pranith Kumar
2016-06-06 20:30 ` Sergey Fedorov
2016-06-06 21:00 ` Peter Maydell
2016-06-06 21:49 ` Sergey Fedorov
2016-05-31 18:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 PATCH 02/13] tcg/i386: Add support for fence Pranith Kumar
2016-05-31 20:27 ` Richard Henderson
2016-06-01 18:49 ` Pranith Kumar
2016-06-01 21:17 ` Richard Henderson
2016-06-01 21:44 ` Pranith Kumar
2016-05-31 18:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 PATCH 03/13] tcg/aarch64: " Pranith Kumar
2016-05-31 18:59 ` Claudio Fontana
2016-05-31 20:34 ` Richard Henderson
2016-06-16 22:03 ` Pranith Kumar
2016-05-31 18:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 PATCH 04/13] tcg/arm: " Pranith Kumar
2016-05-31 18:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 PATCH 05/13] tcg/ia64: " Pranith Kumar
2016-05-31 18:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 PATCH 06/13] tcg/mips: " Pranith Kumar
2016-05-31 18:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 PATCH 07/13] tcg/ppc: " Pranith Kumar
2016-05-31 20:41 ` Richard Henderson
2016-05-31 18:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 PATCH 08/13] tcg/s390: " Pranith Kumar
2016-06-02 19:31 ` Sergey Fedorov
2016-06-02 20:38 ` Richard Henderson
2016-05-31 18:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 PATCH 09/13] tcg/sparc: " Pranith Kumar
2016-05-31 20:45 ` Richard Henderson
2016-05-31 18:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 PATCH 10/13] tcg/tci: " Pranith Kumar
2016-05-31 18:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 PATCH 11/13] target-arm: Generate fences in ARMv7 frontend Pranith Kumar
2016-06-02 19:37 ` Sergey Fedorov
2016-06-04 14:50 ` Pranith Kumar
2016-05-31 18:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 PATCH 12/13] target-alpha: Generate fence op Pranith Kumar
2016-05-31 18:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 PATCH 13/13] tcg: Generate fences only for SMP MTTCG guests Pranith Kumar
2016-05-31 18:46 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 PATCH 00/13] tcg: Add fence gen support Pranith Kumar
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