From: Sergey Fedorov <serge.fdrv@gmail.com>
To: Pranith Kumar <bobby.prani@gmail.com>,
Richard Henderson <rth@twiddle.net>
Cc: "open list:All patches CC here" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
"Alex Bennée" <alex.bennee@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 PATCH 01/13] Introduce TCGOpcode for memory barrier
Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2016 22:49:01 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5751DF2D.5040709@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJhHMCAHY74HnoVRyH2evK1te5DNcCX28sp4=BGVTBkiMbiTfw@mail.gmail.com>
On 03/06/16 21:30, Pranith Kumar wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 9:08 PM, Richard Henderson <rth@twiddle.net> wrote:
>> On 06/02/2016 02:37 PM, Sergey Fedorov wrote:
>>>
>>> It would give us three TCG operations for each memory operation instead
>>> of one. But then we might like to combine these barrier operations back
>>> with memory operations in each backend. If we propagate memory ordering
>>> semantics up to the backend, it can decide itself what instructions are
>>> best to generate.
>>
>> A strongly ordered target would generally only set BEFORE bits or AFTER
>> bits, but not both (and I suggest we canonicalize on AFTER for all such
>> targets). Thus a strongly ordered target would produce only 2 opcodes per
>> memory op.
>>
>> I supplied both to make it easier to handle a weakly ordered target with
>> acquire/release bits.
>>
>> I would *not* combine the barrier operations back with memory operations in
>> the backend. Only armv8 and ia64 can do that, and given the optimization
>> level at which we generate code, I doubt it would really make much
>> difference above separate barriers.
>>
> On armv8, using load_acquire/store_release instructions makes a
> significant difference in performance when compared to plain
> dmb+memory instruction sequence. So I would really like to keep the
> option of generating acq/rel instructions(by combining barrier and
> memory or some other way) open.
I'm not so sure about acq/rel flags. Is there any architecture which has
explicit acq/rel barriers? I suppose acq/rel memory access instructions
are always load-link and store-conditional and thus rely on exclusive
memory monitor to support that "conditional" behaviour. To emulate this
behaviour we need something more special like "Slow-path for atomic
instruction translation" [1].
[1] http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.emulators.qemu/407419
Kind regards,
Sergey
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Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-05-31 18:39 [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 PATCH 00/13] tcg: Add fence gen support Pranith Kumar
2016-05-31 18:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 PATCH 01/13] Introduce TCGOpcode for memory barrier Pranith Kumar
2016-05-31 20:24 ` Richard Henderson
2016-06-01 18:43 ` Pranith Kumar
2016-06-01 21:35 ` Richard Henderson
2016-06-02 16:18 ` Sergey Fedorov
2016-06-02 16:30 ` Sergey Fedorov
2016-06-02 18:42 ` Pranith Kumar
2016-06-02 20:36 ` Richard Henderson
2016-06-02 20:36 ` Richard Henderson
2016-06-02 20:38 ` Sergey Fedorov
2016-06-02 21:18 ` Richard Henderson
2016-06-02 21:37 ` Sergey Fedorov
2016-06-03 1:08 ` Richard Henderson
2016-06-03 15:16 ` Sergey Fedorov
2016-06-03 15:45 ` Richard Henderson
2016-06-03 16:06 ` Sergey Fedorov
2016-06-03 18:30 ` Pranith Kumar
2016-06-03 19:49 ` Sergey Fedorov [this message]
2016-06-03 20:43 ` Peter Maydell
2016-06-03 21:33 ` Sergey Fedorov
2016-06-06 16:19 ` Alex Bennée
2016-06-03 18:27 ` Pranith Kumar
2016-06-03 19:52 ` Sergey Fedorov
2016-06-06 15:44 ` Sergey Fedorov
2016-06-06 15:47 ` Pranith Kumar
2016-06-06 15:49 ` Sergey Fedorov
2016-06-06 15:58 ` Pranith Kumar
2016-06-06 16:14 ` Sergey Fedorov
2016-06-06 17:11 ` Pranith Kumar
2016-06-06 19:23 ` Richard Henderson
2016-06-06 19:28 ` Pranith Kumar
2016-06-06 20:30 ` Sergey Fedorov
2016-06-06 21:00 ` Peter Maydell
2016-06-06 21:49 ` Sergey Fedorov
2016-05-31 18:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 PATCH 02/13] tcg/i386: Add support for fence Pranith Kumar
2016-05-31 20:27 ` Richard Henderson
2016-06-01 18:49 ` Pranith Kumar
2016-06-01 21:17 ` Richard Henderson
2016-06-01 21:44 ` Pranith Kumar
2016-05-31 18:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 PATCH 03/13] tcg/aarch64: " Pranith Kumar
2016-05-31 18:59 ` Claudio Fontana
2016-05-31 20:34 ` Richard Henderson
2016-06-16 22:03 ` Pranith Kumar
2016-05-31 18:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 PATCH 04/13] tcg/arm: " Pranith Kumar
2016-05-31 18:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 PATCH 05/13] tcg/ia64: " Pranith Kumar
2016-05-31 18:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 PATCH 06/13] tcg/mips: " Pranith Kumar
2016-05-31 18:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 PATCH 07/13] tcg/ppc: " Pranith Kumar
2016-05-31 20:41 ` Richard Henderson
2016-05-31 18:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 PATCH 08/13] tcg/s390: " Pranith Kumar
2016-06-02 19:31 ` Sergey Fedorov
2016-06-02 20:38 ` Richard Henderson
2016-05-31 18:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 PATCH 09/13] tcg/sparc: " Pranith Kumar
2016-05-31 20:45 ` Richard Henderson
2016-05-31 18:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 PATCH 10/13] tcg/tci: " Pranith Kumar
2016-05-31 18:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 PATCH 11/13] target-arm: Generate fences in ARMv7 frontend Pranith Kumar
2016-06-02 19:37 ` Sergey Fedorov
2016-06-04 14:50 ` Pranith Kumar
2016-05-31 18:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 PATCH 12/13] target-alpha: Generate fence op Pranith Kumar
2016-05-31 18:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 PATCH 13/13] tcg: Generate fences only for SMP MTTCG guests Pranith Kumar
2016-05-31 18:46 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 PATCH 00/13] tcg: Add fence gen support Pranith Kumar
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