From: Sergey Fedorov <serge.fdrv@gmail.com>
To: "Emilio G. Cota" <cota@braap.org>
Cc: "QEMU Developers" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
"MTTCG Devel" <mttcg@listserver.greensocs.com>,
"Alex Bennée" <alex.bennee@linaro.org>,
"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
"Richard Henderson" <rth@twiddle.net>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 08/15] qdist: add module to represent frequency distributions of data
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2016 17:06:16 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5756D4D8.7060202@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160606234014.GA4418@flamenco>
On 07/06/16 02:40, Emilio G. Cota wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 03, 2016 at 20:46:07 +0300, Sergey Fedorov wrote:
>> On 03/06/16 20:29, Sergey Fedorov wrote:
>>> On 03/06/16 20:22, Emilio G. Cota wrote:
>>>> On Sat, May 28, 2016 at 21:15:06 +0300, Sergey Fedorov wrote:
>>>>> On 25/05/16 04:13, Emilio G. Cota wrote:
>>>>> (snip)
>>>>>> +double qdist_avg(const struct qdist *dist)
>>>>>> +{
>>>>>> + unsigned long count;
>>>>>> + size_t i;
>>>>>> + double ret = 0;
>>>>>> +
>>>>>> + count = qdist_sample_count(dist);
>>>>>> + if (!count) {
>>>>>> + return NAN;
>>>>>> + }
>>>>>> + for (i = 0; i < dist->n; i++) {
>>>>>> + struct qdist_entry *e = &dist->entries[i];
>>>>>> +
>>>>>> + ret += e->x * e->count / count;
>>>>> Please use Welford’s method or something like that, see
>>>>> http://stackoverflow.com/a/1346890.
>>>> Yes, the way the mean is computed right now, we might suffer
>>>> from underflow if count is huge. But I'd rather take that, than the
>>>> perf penalty of an iterative method (such as the one used
>>>> in Welford's). Note that we might have huge amounts of
>>>> items, e.g. one item per head bucket in qht's occupancy qdist
>>>> (and 0.5M head buckets is easy to achieve).
>>>>
>>>> If we were to use an iterative method, we'd need to do something
>>>> like:
>>>>
>>>> double qdist_avg(const struct qdist *dist)
>>>> {
>>>> size_t i, j;
>>>> double ret = 0;
>>>>
>>>> if (!qdist_sample_count(dist)) {
>>>> return NAN;
>>>> }
>>>> /* compute moving average to prevent under/overflow */
>>>> for (i = 0; i < dist->n; i++) {
>>>> struct qdist_entry *e = &dist->entries[i];
>>>>
>>>> for (j = 0; j < e->count; j++) {
>>>>
>>>> ret += (e->x - ret) / (i + j + 1);
>>>> }
>>>> }
>>>> return ret;
>>>> }
>>>>
>>>> Note that skipping the inner loop would be incorrect.
>>> Ah, it's a shame. I'm wondering if there is some other algorithm that
>>> could work for us?
>> Maybe something like
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kahan_summation_algorithm could help?
> That algorithm is overkill for what we're doing. Pairwise summation
> should suffice:
>
> diff --git a/util/qdist.c b/util/qdist.c
> index 3343640..909bd2b 100644
> --- a/util/qdist.c
> +++ b/util/qdist.c
> @@ -367,20 +367,34 @@ unsigned long qdist_sample_count(const struct qdist *dist)
> return count;
> }
>
> +static double qdist_pairwise_avg(const struct qdist *dist, size_t index,
> + size_t n, unsigned long count)
> +{
> + if (n <= 2) {
We would like to amortize the overhead of the recursion by making the
cut-off sufficiently large.
> + size_t i;
> + double ret = 0;
> +
> + for (i = 0; i < n; i++) {
> + struct qdist_entry *e = &dist->entries[index + i];
> +
> + ret += e->x * e->count / count;
> + }
> + return ret;
> + } else {
> + size_t n2 = n / 2;
> +
> + return qdist_pairwise_avg(dist, index, n2, count) +
> + qdist_pairwise_avg(dist, index + n2, n - n2, count);
> + }
> +}
> +
> double qdist_avg(const struct qdist *dist)
> {
> unsigned long count;
> - size_t i;
> - double ret = 0;
>
> count = qdist_sample_count(dist);
> if (!count) {
> return NAN;
> }
> - for (i = 0; i < dist->n; i++) {
> - struct qdist_entry *e = &dist->entries[i];
> -
> - ret += e->x * e->count / count;
> - }
> - return ret;
> + return qdist_pairwise_avg(dist, 0, dist->n, count);
> }
Otherwise looks good.
Kind regards,
Sergey
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-06-07 14:06 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-05-25 1:13 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 00/15] tb hash improvements Emilio G. Cota
2016-05-25 1:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 01/15] compiler.h: add QEMU_ALIGNED() to enforce struct alignment Emilio G. Cota
2016-05-27 19:54 ` Sergey Fedorov
2016-05-25 1:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 02/15] seqlock: remove optional mutex Emilio G. Cota
2016-05-27 19:55 ` Sergey Fedorov
2016-05-25 1:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 03/15] seqlock: rename write_lock/unlock to write_begin/end Emilio G. Cota
2016-05-27 19:59 ` Sergey Fedorov
2016-05-25 1:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 04/15] include/processor.h: define cpu_relax() Emilio G. Cota
2016-05-27 20:53 ` Sergey Fedorov
2016-05-27 21:10 ` Emilio G. Cota
2016-05-28 12:35 ` Sergey Fedorov
2016-05-25 1:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 05/15] qemu-thread: add simple test-and-set spinlock Emilio G. Cota
2016-05-25 1:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 06/15] exec: add tb_hash_func5, derived from xxhash Emilio G. Cota
2016-05-28 12:36 ` Sergey Fedorov
2016-05-25 1:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 07/15] tb hash: hash phys_pc, pc, and flags with xxhash Emilio G. Cota
2016-05-28 12:39 ` Sergey Fedorov
2016-05-25 1:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 08/15] qdist: add module to represent frequency distributions of data Emilio G. Cota
2016-05-28 18:15 ` Sergey Fedorov
2016-06-03 17:22 ` Emilio G. Cota
2016-06-03 17:29 ` Sergey Fedorov
2016-06-03 17:46 ` Sergey Fedorov
2016-06-06 23:40 ` Emilio G. Cota
2016-06-07 14:06 ` Sergey Fedorov [this message]
2016-06-07 22:53 ` Emilio G. Cota
2016-06-08 13:09 ` Sergey Fedorov
2016-06-07 1:05 ` Emilio G. Cota
2016-06-07 15:56 ` Sergey Fedorov
2016-06-08 0:02 ` Emilio G. Cota
2016-06-08 14:10 ` Sergey Fedorov
2016-06-08 18:06 ` Emilio G. Cota
2016-06-08 18:18 ` Sergey Fedorov
2016-05-25 1:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 09/15] qdist: add test program Emilio G. Cota
2016-05-28 18:56 ` Sergey Fedorov
2016-05-25 1:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 10/15] qht: QEMU's fast, resizable and scalable Hash Table Emilio G. Cota
2016-05-29 19:52 ` Sergey Fedorov
2016-05-29 19:55 ` Sergey Fedorov
2016-05-31 7:46 ` Alex Bennée
2016-06-01 20:53 ` Sergey Fedorov
2016-06-03 9:18 ` Emilio G. Cota
2016-06-03 15:19 ` Sergey Fedorov
2016-06-03 11:01 ` Emilio G. Cota
2016-06-03 15:34 ` Sergey Fedorov
2016-05-25 1:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 11/15] qht: add test program Emilio G. Cota
2016-05-29 20:15 ` Sergey Fedorov
2016-05-25 1:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 12/15] qht: add qht-bench, a performance benchmark Emilio G. Cota
2016-05-29 20:45 ` Sergey Fedorov
2016-06-03 11:41 ` Emilio G. Cota
2016-06-03 15:41 ` Sergey Fedorov
2016-05-31 15:12 ` Alex Bennée
2016-05-31 16:44 ` Emilio G. Cota
2016-05-25 1:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 13/15] qht: add test-qht-par to invoke qht-bench from 'check' target Emilio G. Cota
2016-05-29 20:53 ` Sergey Fedorov
2016-06-03 11:07 ` Emilio G. Cota
2016-05-25 1:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 14/15] tb hash: track translated blocks with qht Emilio G. Cota
2016-05-29 21:09 ` Sergey Fedorov
2016-05-31 8:39 ` Alex Bennée
2016-05-25 1:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 15/15] translate-all: add tb hash bucket info to 'info jit' dump Emilio G. Cota
2016-05-29 21:14 ` Sergey Fedorov
2016-06-08 6:25 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 00/15] tb hash improvements Alex Bennée
2016-06-08 15:16 ` Emilio G. Cota
2016-06-08 15:35 ` Richard Henderson
2016-06-08 15:37 ` Sergey Fedorov
2016-06-08 16:45 ` Alex Bennée
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