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From: Sergey Fedorov <serge.fdrv@gmail.com>
To: "Emilio G. Cota" <cota@braap.org>
Cc: "QEMU Developers" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	"MTTCG Devel" <mttcg@listserver.greensocs.com>,
	"Alex Bennée" <alex.bennee@linaro.org>,
	"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"Richard Henderson" <rth@twiddle.net>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 08/15] qdist: add module to represent frequency distributions of data
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2016 17:06:16 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5756D4D8.7060202@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160606234014.GA4418@flamenco>

On 07/06/16 02:40, Emilio G. Cota wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 03, 2016 at 20:46:07 +0300, Sergey Fedorov wrote:
>> On 03/06/16 20:29, Sergey Fedorov wrote:
>>> On 03/06/16 20:22, Emilio G. Cota wrote:
>>>> On Sat, May 28, 2016 at 21:15:06 +0300, Sergey Fedorov wrote:
>>>>> On 25/05/16 04:13, Emilio G. Cota wrote:
>>>>> (snip)
>>>>>> +double qdist_avg(const struct qdist *dist)
>>>>>> +{
>>>>>> +    unsigned long count;
>>>>>> +    size_t i;
>>>>>> +    double ret = 0;
>>>>>> +
>>>>>> +    count = qdist_sample_count(dist);
>>>>>> +    if (!count) {
>>>>>> +        return NAN;
>>>>>> +    }
>>>>>> +    for (i = 0; i < dist->n; i++) {
>>>>>> +        struct qdist_entry *e = &dist->entries[i];
>>>>>> +
>>>>>> +        ret += e->x * e->count / count;
>>>>> Please use Welford’s method or something like that, see
>>>>> http://stackoverflow.com/a/1346890.
>>>> Yes, the way the mean is computed right now, we might suffer
>>>> from underflow if count is huge. But I'd rather take that, than the
>>>> perf penalty of an iterative method (such as the one used
>>>> in Welford's). Note that we might have huge amounts of
>>>> items, e.g. one item per head bucket in qht's occupancy qdist
>>>> (and 0.5M head buckets is easy to achieve).
>>>>
>>>> If we were to use an iterative method, we'd need to do something
>>>> like:
>>>>
>>>> double qdist_avg(const struct qdist *dist)
>>>> {
>>>>     size_t i, j;
>>>>     double ret = 0;
>>>>
>>>>     if (!qdist_sample_count(dist)) {
>>>>         return NAN;
>>>>     }
>>>>     /* compute moving average to prevent under/overflow */
>>>>     for (i = 0; i < dist->n; i++) {
>>>>         struct qdist_entry *e = &dist->entries[i];
>>>>
>>>>         for (j = 0; j < e->count; j++) {
>>>>
>>>>             ret += (e->x - ret) / (i + j + 1);
>>>>         }
>>>>     }
>>>>     return ret;
>>>> }
>>>>
>>>> Note that skipping the inner loop would be incorrect.
>>> Ah, it's a shame. I'm wondering if there is some other algorithm that
>>> could work for us?
>> Maybe something like
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kahan_summation_algorithm could help?
> That algorithm is overkill for what we're doing. Pairwise summation
> should suffice:
>
> diff --git a/util/qdist.c b/util/qdist.c
> index 3343640..909bd2b 100644
> --- a/util/qdist.c
> +++ b/util/qdist.c
> @@ -367,20 +367,34 @@ unsigned long qdist_sample_count(const struct qdist *dist)
>      return count;
>  }
>  
> +static double qdist_pairwise_avg(const struct qdist *dist, size_t index,
> +                                 size_t n, unsigned long count)
> +{
> +    if (n <= 2) {

We would like to amortize the overhead of the recursion by making the
cut-off sufficiently large.

> +        size_t i;
> +        double ret = 0;
> +
> +        for (i = 0; i < n; i++) {
> +            struct qdist_entry *e = &dist->entries[index + i];
> +
> +            ret += e->x * e->count / count;
> +        }
> +        return ret;
> +    } else {
> +        size_t n2 = n / 2;
> +
> +        return qdist_pairwise_avg(dist, index, n2, count) +
> +               qdist_pairwise_avg(dist, index + n2, n - n2, count);
> +    }
> +}
> +
>  double qdist_avg(const struct qdist *dist)
>  {
>      unsigned long count;
> -    size_t i;
> -    double ret = 0;
>  
>      count = qdist_sample_count(dist);
>      if (!count) {
>          return NAN;
>      }
> -    for (i = 0; i < dist->n; i++) {
> -        struct qdist_entry *e = &dist->entries[i];
> -
> -        ret += e->x * e->count / count;
> -    }
> -    return ret;
> +    return qdist_pairwise_avg(dist, 0, dist->n, count);
>  }

Otherwise looks good.

Kind regards,
Sergey

  reply	other threads:[~2016-06-07 14:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-05-25  1:13 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 00/15] tb hash improvements Emilio G. Cota
2016-05-25  1:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 01/15] compiler.h: add QEMU_ALIGNED() to enforce struct alignment Emilio G. Cota
2016-05-27 19:54   ` Sergey Fedorov
2016-05-25  1:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 02/15] seqlock: remove optional mutex Emilio G. Cota
2016-05-27 19:55   ` Sergey Fedorov
2016-05-25  1:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 03/15] seqlock: rename write_lock/unlock to write_begin/end Emilio G. Cota
2016-05-27 19:59   ` Sergey Fedorov
2016-05-25  1:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 04/15] include/processor.h: define cpu_relax() Emilio G. Cota
2016-05-27 20:53   ` Sergey Fedorov
2016-05-27 21:10     ` Emilio G. Cota
2016-05-28 12:35       ` Sergey Fedorov
2016-05-25  1:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 05/15] qemu-thread: add simple test-and-set spinlock Emilio G. Cota
2016-05-25  1:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 06/15] exec: add tb_hash_func5, derived from xxhash Emilio G. Cota
2016-05-28 12:36   ` Sergey Fedorov
2016-05-25  1:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 07/15] tb hash: hash phys_pc, pc, and flags with xxhash Emilio G. Cota
2016-05-28 12:39   ` Sergey Fedorov
2016-05-25  1:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 08/15] qdist: add module to represent frequency distributions of data Emilio G. Cota
2016-05-28 18:15   ` Sergey Fedorov
2016-06-03 17:22     ` Emilio G. Cota
2016-06-03 17:29       ` Sergey Fedorov
2016-06-03 17:46         ` Sergey Fedorov
2016-06-06 23:40           ` Emilio G. Cota
2016-06-07 14:06             ` Sergey Fedorov [this message]
2016-06-07 22:53               ` Emilio G. Cota
2016-06-08 13:09                 ` Sergey Fedorov
2016-06-07  1:05     ` Emilio G. Cota
2016-06-07 15:56       ` Sergey Fedorov
2016-06-08  0:02         ` Emilio G. Cota
2016-06-08 14:10           ` Sergey Fedorov
2016-06-08 18:06             ` Emilio G. Cota
2016-06-08 18:18               ` Sergey Fedorov
2016-05-25  1:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 09/15] qdist: add test program Emilio G. Cota
2016-05-28 18:56   ` Sergey Fedorov
2016-05-25  1:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 10/15] qht: QEMU's fast, resizable and scalable Hash Table Emilio G. Cota
2016-05-29 19:52   ` Sergey Fedorov
2016-05-29 19:55     ` Sergey Fedorov
2016-05-31  7:46     ` Alex Bennée
2016-06-01 20:53       ` Sergey Fedorov
2016-06-03  9:18     ` Emilio G. Cota
2016-06-03 15:19       ` Sergey Fedorov
2016-06-03 11:01     ` Emilio G. Cota
2016-06-03 15:34       ` Sergey Fedorov
2016-05-25  1:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 11/15] qht: add test program Emilio G. Cota
2016-05-29 20:15   ` Sergey Fedorov
2016-05-25  1:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 12/15] qht: add qht-bench, a performance benchmark Emilio G. Cota
2016-05-29 20:45   ` Sergey Fedorov
2016-06-03 11:41     ` Emilio G. Cota
2016-06-03 15:41       ` Sergey Fedorov
2016-05-31 15:12   ` Alex Bennée
2016-05-31 16:44     ` Emilio G. Cota
2016-05-25  1:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 13/15] qht: add test-qht-par to invoke qht-bench from 'check' target Emilio G. Cota
2016-05-29 20:53   ` Sergey Fedorov
2016-06-03 11:07     ` Emilio G. Cota
2016-05-25  1:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 14/15] tb hash: track translated blocks with qht Emilio G. Cota
2016-05-29 21:09   ` Sergey Fedorov
2016-05-31  8:39   ` Alex Bennée
2016-05-25  1:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 15/15] translate-all: add tb hash bucket info to 'info jit' dump Emilio G. Cota
2016-05-29 21:14   ` Sergey Fedorov
2016-06-08  6:25 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 00/15] tb hash improvements Alex Bennée
2016-06-08 15:16   ` Emilio G. Cota
2016-06-08 15:35   ` Richard Henderson
2016-06-08 15:37     ` Sergey Fedorov
2016-06-08 16:45       ` Alex Bennée

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