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From: Sergey Fedorov <serge.fdrv@gmail.com>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Cc: sergey.fedorov@linaro.org, alex.bennee@linaro.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] atomics: add volatile_read/volatile_set
Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2016 20:17:54 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <578D0F42.4040203@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4c479cb3-a8ef-caab-4dbc-3bfd014c7a0a@redhat.com>

On 18/07/16 20:11, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
>
> On 18/07/2016 19:07, Sergey Fedorov wrote:
>> On 18/07/16 20:00, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
>>> On 18/07/2016 18:57, Sergey Fedorov wrote:
>>>> On 18/07/16 19:53, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
>>>>> On 18/07/2016 18:52, Sergey Fedorov wrote:
>>>>>> So how are we going to use them?
>>>>> Instead of atomic_read/atomic_set when marking invalid TBs.
>>>> But shouldn't they be atomic to avoid reading torn writes?
>>> A torn write would probably fail to match anyway, but even if it doesn't
>>> it is indistinguishable from a race, isn't it?
>> I'm afraid, torn write can happen to be a false match against a wrong
>> TB. In case of a race with atomic access we either get the right TB or
>> an invalid one which couldn't match any valid CPU state. Probably, we
>> have to make sure (and document this) that TB invalidation process
>> cannot make a partially invalidated TB which can match any meaningful
>> CPU state.
> x86 is atomic (because flags are 32-bit); those that have cs_base==0 are
> safe against torn writes too.  Only SPARC perhaps could use
> "tb->cs_base|=1" instead in case 0xffffffff........ matches another TB.

That could really work but needs some comment, of course. BTW, what is
the main point of such change? A bit more performance on some 32-bit hosts?

Thanks,
Sergey

>
> Paolo
>
>>> By the way, tb_cmp should also use volatile_read.
>> You are right, we must user the save type of access in tb_cmp().
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Sergey
>>

  reply	other threads:[~2016-07-18 17:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-07-18 14:17 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] atomics: add volatile_read/volatile_set Paolo Bonzini
2016-07-18 16:52 ` Sergey Fedorov
2016-07-18 16:53   ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-07-18 16:57     ` Sergey Fedorov
2016-07-18 17:00       ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-07-18 17:07         ` Sergey Fedorov
2016-07-18 17:11           ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-07-18 17:17             ` Sergey Fedorov [this message]
2016-07-18 17:22               ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-07-18 17:25                 ` Sergey Fedorov
2016-07-18 17:28                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-07-18 17:31                     ` Sergey Fedorov
2016-07-18 17:58                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-07-18 19:04                         ` Sergey Fedorov
2016-07-18 20:54                           ` Paolo Bonzini

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