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From: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
To: Yongji Xie <elohimes@gmail.com>
Cc: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	zhangyu31@baidu.com, Xie Yongji <xieyongji@baidu.com>,
	lilin24@baidu.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org, chaiwen@baidu.com,
	marcandre.lureau@redhat.com, nixun@baidu.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH for-4.0 0/6] vhost-user-blk: Add support for backend reconnecting
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2018 11:00:02 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5794e090-9a9b-ca30-1066-ef697c9b67be@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAONzpcaXTBgPTH0WSfq-=RwHLkuqi1mhKcv4C=0_O67_hV8A2Q@mail.gmail.com>


On 2018/12/12 上午10:48, Yongji Xie wrote:
> On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 at 17:32, Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com> wrote:
>>
>> On 2018/12/6 下午9:59, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
>>> On Thu, Dec 06, 2018 at 09:57:22PM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
>>>> On 2018/12/6 下午2:35,elohimes@gmail.com  wrote:
>>>>> From: Xie Yongji<xieyongji@baidu.com>
>>>>>
>>>>> This patchset is aimed at supporting qemu to reconnect
>>>>> vhost-user-blk backend after vhost-user-blk backend crash or
>>>>> restart.
>>>>>
>>>>> The patch 1 tries to implenment the sync connection for
>>>>> "reconnect socket".
>>>>>
>>>>> The patch 2 introduces a new message VHOST_USER_SET_VRING_INFLIGHT
>>>>> to support offering shared memory to backend to record
>>>>> its inflight I/O.
>>>>>
>>>>> The patch 3,4 are the corresponding libvhost-user patches of
>>>>> patch 2. Make libvhost-user support VHOST_USER_SET_VRING_INFLIGHT.
>>>>>
>>>>> The patch 5 supports vhost-user-blk to reconnect backend when
>>>>> connection closed.
>>>>>
>>>>> The patch 6 tells qemu that we support reconnecting now.
>>>>>
>>>>> To use it, we could start qemu with:
>>>>>
>>>>> qemu-system-x86_64 \
>>>>>            -chardev socket,id=char0,path=/path/vhost.socket,reconnect=1,wait \
>>>>>            -device vhost-user-blk-pci,chardev=char0 \
>>>>>
>>>>> and start vhost-user-blk backend with:
>>>>>
>>>>> vhost-user-blk -b /path/file -s /path/vhost.socket
>>>>>
>>>>> Then we can restart vhost-user-blk at any time during VM running.
>>>> I wonder whether or not it's better to handle this at the level of virtio
>>>> protocol itself instead of vhost-user level. E.g expose last_avail_idx to
>>>> driver might be sufficient?
>>>>
>>>> Another possible issue is, looks like you need to deal with different kinds
>>>> of ring layouts e.g packed virtqueues.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>> I'm not sure I understand your comments here.
>>> All these would be guest-visible extensions.
>>
>> Looks not, it only introduces a shared memory between qemu and
>> vhost-user backend?
>>
>>
>>> Possible for sure but how is this related to
>>> a patch supporting transparent reconnects?
>>
>> I might miss something. My understanding is that we support transparent
>> reconnects, but we can't deduce an accurate last_avail_idx and this is
>> what capability this series try to add. To me, this series is functional
>> equivalent to expose last_avail_idx (or avail_idx_cons) in available
>> ring. So the information is inside guest memory, vhost-user backend can
>> access it and update it directly. I believe this is some modern NIC did
>> as well (but index is in MMIO area of course).
>>
> Hi Jason,
>
> If my understand is correct, it might be not enough to only expose
> last_avail_idx.
> Because we would not process descriptors in the same order in which they have
> been made available sometimes. If so, we can't get correct inflight
> I/O information
> from available ring.


You can get this with the help of the both used ring and last_avail_idx 
I believe. Or maybe you can give us an example?

Thanks


>
> Thanks,
> Yongji

  reply	other threads:[~2018-12-12  3:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-12-06  6:35 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH for-4.0 0/6] vhost-user-blk: Add support for backend reconnecting elohimes
2018-12-06  6:35 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH for-4.0 1/6] char-socket: Enable "wait" option for client mode elohimes
2018-12-06  7:23   ` Marc-André Lureau
2018-12-06  7:53     ` Yongji Xie
2018-12-06  9:31   ` Yury Kotov
2018-12-06  6:35 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH for-4.0 2/6] vhost-user: Add shared memory to record inflight I/O elohimes
2018-12-06  7:19   ` Marc-André Lureau
2018-12-06  7:22     ` Yongji Xie
2018-12-06  6:35 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH for-4.0 3/6] libvhost-user: Introduce vu_queue_map_desc() elohimes
2018-12-06  7:16   ` Marc-André Lureau
2018-12-06  6:35 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH for-4.0 4/6] libvhost-user: Support recording inflight I/O in shared memory elohimes
2018-12-06  6:35 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH for-4.0 5/6] vhost-user-blk: Add support for reconnecting backend elohimes
2018-12-06 12:21   ` Yury Kotov
2018-12-06 13:26     ` Yongji Xie
2018-12-06  6:35 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH for-4.0 6/6] contrib/vhost-user-blk: enable inflight I/O recording elohimes
2018-12-06  7:23 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH for-4.0 0/6] vhost-user-blk: Add support for backend reconnecting Marc-André Lureau
2018-12-06  7:43   ` Yongji Xie
2018-12-06  9:21 ` Yury Kotov
2018-12-06  9:41   ` Yongji Xie
2018-12-06  9:52     ` Yury Kotov
2018-12-06 10:35       ` Yongji Xie
2018-12-06 13:57 ` Jason Wang
2018-12-06 13:59   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-12-10  9:32     ` Jason Wang
2018-12-12  2:48       ` Yongji Xie
2018-12-12  3:00         ` Jason Wang [this message]
2018-12-12  3:21           ` Yongji Xie
2018-12-12  4:06             ` Jason Wang
2018-12-12  6:41               ` Yongji Xie
2018-12-12  7:47                 ` Jason Wang
2018-12-12  9:18                   ` Yongji Xie
2018-12-13  2:58                     ` Jason Wang
2018-12-13  3:41                       ` Yongji Xie
2018-12-13 14:56                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-12-14  4:36                           ` Jason Wang
2018-12-14 13:31                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-12-06 14:00   ` Jason Wang
2018-12-07  8:56   ` Yongji Xie
2018-12-13 14:45 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-12-14  1:56   ` Yongji Xie
2018-12-14  2:20     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-12-14  2:33       ` Yongji Xie
2018-12-14 21:23         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-12-15 11:34           ` Yongji Xie

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