From: Jike Song <jike.song@intel.com>
To: Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>
Cc: Kirti Wankhede <kwankhede@nvidia.com>,
kraxel@redhat.com, Dong Jia <bjsdjshi@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
kevin.tian@intel.com, cjia@nvidia.com, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, pbonzini@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v7 2/4] vfio: VFIO driver for mediated devices
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2016 13:02:39 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <57E2146F.9070400@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160920225152.5f96b897@t450s.home>
On 09/21/2016 12:51 PM, Alex Williamson wrote:
> On Wed, 21 Sep 2016 11:19:17 +0800
> Jike Song <jike.song@intel.com> wrote:
>
>> On 09/21/2016 12:24 AM, Alex Williamson wrote:
>>> On Tue, 20 Sep 2016 10:50:47 +0800
>>> Jike Song <jike.song@intel.com> wrote:
>>
>> /* trim the quotations */
>>
>>>> Even performing a lightweight sanity check, would require vfio-mdev
>>>> to be able to decode the ppos into a particular region, that means
>>>> information of all regions should be stored in the framework. I guess
>>>> it is not your preferred way :)
>>>
>>> There's certainly a trade-off there, we don't support dynamic regions,
>>> the user expects them to be stable and the mdev-core code can expect
>>> that also. It might simplify the vendor drivers slightly if the core
>>> could perform such a basic sanity test, but the cost to do so would be
>>> that the core needs to have an understanding of the region layout of
>>> the device.
>>
>> I agree with why the requirement is, but I am suspicious that,
>> if we assume the regions are stable, try to encode/decode that within
>> the mdev-core framework - instead of vendor drivers - that is because
>> we want mdev to be API compatible with vfio-pci?
>>
>> Being API compatible with vfio-pci is (IMHO) the most beautiful thing
>> in current mdev design, but is it necessary to make it mandatory?
>> How about letting the underlining vendor drivers to decide whether
>> it is API compatible with vfio-pci, or will have a different set of
>> userspace API?
>
> Are you assuming that I'm suggesting using VFIO_PCI_OFFSET_TO_INDEX in
> the mdev core? We've been through that, I've rejected it, that's not
> at all what I'm describing. The vfio bus driver defines the region
> layout, but once defined it is fixed for a given device instance. A
> user does not need to call ioctl(VFIO_DEVICE_GET_REGION_INFO) prior to
> every region access to make sure the region offsets haven't changed
> dynamically. If it's fixed to the user than it's also fixed to the
> mdev core for a given device instance, so nothing prevents the core
> code from doing its own enumeration of the region offsets and sizes and
> caching them into data structures. That has nothing whatsoever to do
> with vfio-pci and makes no assumptions about the layout of regions
> within device fd. Thanks,
>
I misunderstood that previously and I understand the whole idea now.
Thanks for the kind explanation! :)
--
Thanks,
Jike
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-09-21 5:04 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 95+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-08-25 3:53 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v7 0/4] Add Mediated device support Kirti Wankhede
2016-08-25 3:53 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v7 1/4] vfio: Mediated device Core driver Kirti Wankhede
2016-09-08 8:09 ` Jike Song
2016-09-08 9:38 ` Neo Jia
2016-09-09 6:26 ` Jike Song
2016-09-09 17:48 ` Kirti Wankhede
2016-09-09 18:42 ` Alex Williamson
2016-09-09 19:55 ` Kirti Wankhede
2016-09-12 5:10 ` Jike Song
2016-09-12 7:49 ` Kirti Wankhede
2016-09-12 15:53 ` Alex Williamson
2016-09-19 7:08 ` Jike Song
2016-09-19 17:29 ` Kirti Wankhede
2016-09-19 18:11 ` Alex Williamson
2016-09-19 20:09 ` Kirti Wankhede
2016-09-19 20:59 ` Alex Williamson
2016-09-20 12:48 ` Jike Song
2016-08-25 3:53 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v7 2/4] vfio: VFIO driver for mediated devices Kirti Wankhede
2016-08-25 9:22 ` Dong Jia
2016-08-26 14:13 ` Kirti Wankhede
2016-09-08 2:38 ` Jike Song
2016-09-19 18:22 ` Kirti Wankhede
2016-09-19 18:36 ` Alex Williamson
2016-09-19 19:13 ` Kirti Wankhede
2016-09-19 20:03 ` Alex Williamson
2016-09-20 2:50 ` Jike Song
2016-09-20 16:24 ` Alex Williamson
2016-09-21 3:19 ` Jike Song
2016-09-21 4:51 ` Alex Williamson
2016-09-21 5:02 ` Jike Song [this message]
2016-09-08 2:45 ` Jike Song
2016-09-13 2:35 ` Jike Song
2016-09-20 5:48 ` Dong Jia Shi
2016-09-20 6:37 ` Jike Song
2016-09-20 12:53 ` Jike Song
2016-08-25 3:53 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v7 3/4] vfio iommu: Add support " Kirti Wankhede
2016-08-25 7:29 ` Dong Jia
2016-08-26 13:50 ` Kirti Wankhede
2016-09-29 2:17 ` Jike Song
2016-09-29 15:06 ` Kirti Wankhede
2016-09-30 2:58 ` Jike Song
2016-09-30 3:10 ` Jike Song
2016-09-30 11:44 ` Kirti Wankhede
2016-10-08 7:09 ` Jike Song
2016-08-25 3:53 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v7 4/4] docs: Add Documentation for Mediated devices Kirti Wankhede
2016-09-03 16:40 ` Kirti Wankhede
2016-08-30 16:16 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v7 0/4] Add Mediated device support Alex Williamson
2016-08-31 6:12 ` Tian, Kevin
2016-08-31 7:04 ` Jike Song
2016-08-31 15:48 ` Alex Williamson
2016-09-01 4:09 ` Tian, Kevin
2016-09-01 4:10 ` Tian, Kevin
2016-09-01 18:22 ` Kirti Wankhede
2016-09-01 20:01 ` Alex Williamson
2016-09-02 6:17 ` Kirti Wankhede
2016-09-01 16:47 ` Michal Privoznik
2016-09-01 16:59 ` Alex Williamson
2016-09-02 4:48 ` Michal Privoznik
2016-09-02 5:21 ` Kirti Wankhede
2016-09-02 10:05 ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-09-02 17:15 ` Kirti Wankhede
2016-09-02 17:25 ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-09-02 18:33 ` Kirti Wankhede
2016-09-02 20:29 ` [Qemu-devel] [libvirt] " John Ferlan
2016-09-03 16:31 ` Kirti Wankhede
2016-09-06 17:54 ` Alex Williamson
2016-09-02 21:48 ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2016-09-03 11:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [libvirt] " John Ferlan
2016-09-03 13:07 ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-09-03 17:47 ` Kirti Wankhede
2016-09-03 16:34 ` [Qemu-devel] " Kirti Wankhede
2016-09-06 17:40 ` Alex Williamson
2016-09-06 19:35 ` Kirti Wankhede
2016-09-06 21:28 ` Alex Williamson
2016-09-07 8:22 ` Tian, Kevin
2016-09-07 16:00 ` Alex Williamson
2016-09-07 16:15 ` Kirti Wankhede
2016-09-07 16:44 ` Alex Williamson
2016-09-07 18:06 ` Kirti Wankhede
2016-09-07 22:13 ` Alex Williamson
2016-09-08 18:48 ` Kirti Wankhede
2016-09-08 20:51 ` Alex Williamson
2016-09-07 18:17 ` Neo Jia
2016-09-07 18:27 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-09-07 18:32 ` Neo Jia
2016-09-07 6:48 ` Tian, Kevin
2016-09-02 20:19 ` [Qemu-devel] [libvirt] " John Ferlan
2016-09-02 21:44 ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-09-02 23:57 ` Laine Stump
2016-09-03 16:49 ` Kirti Wankhede
2016-09-05 7:52 ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-09-03 11:57 ` John Ferlan
2016-09-05 7:54 ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-09-02 17:55 ` Laine Stump
2016-09-02 19:15 ` Alex Williamson
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