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From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>
Cc: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>,
	Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito <eesposit@redhat.com>,
	qemu-block@nongnu.org, Hanna Reitz <hreitz@redhat.com>,
	John Snow <jsnow@redhat.com>,
	Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy <vsementsov@virtuozzo.com>,
	Fam Zheng <fam@euphon.net>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 0/8] Removal of AioContext lock, bs->parents and ->children: new rwlock
Date: Tue, 24 May 2022 11:17:06 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <584d7d1a-94cc-9ebb-363b-2fddb8d79f5b@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YoySiI+ReM2O8WEs@stefanha-x1.localdomain>

On 5/24/22 10:08, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
> On Tue, May 24, 2022 at 09:55:39AM +0200, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
>> On 5/22/22 17:06, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
>>> However, I hit on a problem that I think Emanuele and Paolo have already
>>> pointed out: draining is GS & IO. This might have worked under the 1 IOThread
>>> model but it does not make sense for multi-queue. It is possible to submit I/O
>>> requests in drained sections. How can multiple threads be in drained sections
>>> simultaneously and possibly submit further I/O requests in their drained
>>> sections? Those sections wouldn't be "drained" in any useful sense of the word.
>>
>> Yeah, that works only if the drained sections are well-behaved.
>>
>> "External" sources of I/O are fine; they are disabled using is_external, and
>> don't drain themselves I think.
> 
> I/O requests for a given BDS may be executing in multiple AioContexts,
> so how do you call aio_disable_external() on all relevant AioContexts?

With multiqueue yeah, we have to replace aio_disable_external() with 
drained_begin/end() callbacks; but I'm not talking about that yet.

>> In parallel to the block layer discussions, it's possible to work on
>> introducing a request queue lock in virtio-blk and virtio-scsi.  That's the
>> only thing that relies on the AioContext lock outside the block layer.
> 
> I'm not sure what the request queue lock protects in virtio-blk? In
> virtio-scsi I guess a lock is needed to protect SCSI target emulation
> state?

Yes, but even in virtio-blk there is this code that runs in the main 
thread and is currently protected by aio_context_acquire/release:

     blk_drain(s->blk);

     /* We drop queued requests after blk_drain() because blk_drain()
      * itself can produce them. */
     while (s->rq) {
         req = s->rq;
         s->rq = req->next;
         virtqueue_detach_element(req->vq, &req->elem, 0);
         virtio_blk_free_request(req);
     }

Maybe it's safe to run it without a lock because it runs after 
virtio_set_status(vdev, 0) but I'd rather play it safe and protect s->rq 
with a lock.

Paolo


  reply	other threads:[~2022-05-24  9:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-04-26  8:51 [RFC PATCH v2 0/8] Removal of AioContext lock, bs->parents and ->children: new rwlock Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-04-26  8:51 ` [RFC PATCH v2 1/8] aio_wait_kick: add missing memory barrier Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-04-28 11:09   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2022-04-29  8:06     ` Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-04-30  5:21       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2022-04-29  8:12   ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-04-26  8:51 ` [RFC PATCH v2 2/8] coroutine-lock: release lock when restarting all coroutines Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-04-26 14:59   ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-04-28 11:21   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2022-04-28 22:14     ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-04-29  9:35       ` Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-04-26  8:51 ` [RFC PATCH v2 3/8] block: introduce a lock to protect graph operations Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-04-26 15:00   ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-04-28 13:45   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2022-04-29  8:37     ` Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-04-30  5:48       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2022-05-02  7:54         ` Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-05-03 10:50           ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2022-04-26  8:51 ` [RFC PATCH v2 4/8] async: register/unregister aiocontext in graph lock list Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-04-28 13:46   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2022-04-28 22:19     ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-04-29  8:37       ` Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-04-26  8:51 ` [RFC PATCH v2 5/8] block.c: wrlock in bdrv_replace_child_noperm Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-04-26 15:07   ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-04-28 13:55   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2022-04-29  8:41     ` Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-04-26  8:51 ` [RFC PATCH v2 6/8] block: assert that graph read and writes are performed correctly Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-04-28 14:43   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2022-04-26  8:51 ` [RFC PATCH v2 7/8] graph-lock: implement WITH_GRAPH_RDLOCK_GUARD and GRAPH_RDLOCK_GUARD macros Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-04-28 15:00   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2022-04-26  8:51 ` [RFC PATCH v2 8/8] mirror: protect drains in coroutine with rdlock Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-04-27  6:55 ` [RFC PATCH v2 0/8] Removal of AioContext lock, bs->parents and ->children: new rwlock Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-04-28 10:45   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2022-04-28 21:56     ` Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-04-30  5:17       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2022-05-02  8:02         ` Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-05-02 13:15           ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-05-03  8:24           ` Kevin Wolf
2022-05-03 11:04           ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2022-04-28 10:34 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2022-04-29  8:06   ` Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-05-04 13:39 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2022-05-17 10:59   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2022-05-18 12:28     ` Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-05-18 12:43       ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-05-18 14:57         ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2022-05-18 16:14         ` Kevin Wolf
2022-05-19 11:27           ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2022-05-19 12:52             ` Kevin Wolf
2022-05-22 15:06           ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2022-05-23  8:48             ` Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-05-23 13:15               ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2022-05-23 13:54                 ` Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito
2022-05-23 13:02             ` Kevin Wolf
2022-05-23 15:13               ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2022-05-23 16:04                 ` Kevin Wolf
2022-05-23 16:45                   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2022-05-24  7:55             ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-05-24  8:08               ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2022-05-24  9:17                 ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2022-05-24 10:20                   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2022-05-24 17:25                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-05-24 10:36         ` Kevin Wolf
2022-05-25  7:41           ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-05-18 14:27       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2022-05-24 12:10       ` Kevin Wolf
2022-05-25  8:27         ` Emanuele Giuseppe Esposito

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