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From: Hailiang Zhang <zhang.zhanghailiang@huawei.com>
To: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>
Cc: xuquan8@huawei.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org, qemu-block@nongnu.org,
	kwolf@redhat.com, mreitz@redhat.com, pbonzini@redhat.com,
	wency@cn.fujitsu.com, xiecl.fnst@cn.fujitsu.com,
	Zhang Chen <zhangchen.fnst@cn.fujitsu.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC v2 1/6] docs/block-replication: Add description for shared-disk case
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2017 10:35:34 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <58817776.30004@huawei.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170119164154.GA27032@stefanha-x1.localdomain>

On 2017/1/20 0:41, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 19, 2017 at 10:50:19AM +0800, Hailiang Zhang wrote:
>> On 2017/1/13 21:41, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
>>> On Mon, Dec 05, 2016 at 04:34:59PM +0800, zhanghailiang wrote:
>>>> +Issue qmp command:
>>>> +  { 'execute': 'blockdev-add',
>>>> +    'arguments': {
>>>> +        'driver': 'replication',
>>>> +        'node-name': 'rep',
>>>> +        'mode': 'primary',
>>>> +        'shared-disk-id': 'primary_disk0',
>>>> +        'shared-disk': true,
>>>> +        'file': {
>>>> +            'driver': 'nbd',
>>>> +            'export': 'hidden_disk0',
>>>> +            'server': {
>>>> +                'type': 'inet',
>>>> +                'data': {
>>>> +                    'host': 'xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx',
>>>> +                    'port': 'yyy'
>>>> +                }
>>>> +            }
>>>
>>> block/nbd.c does have good error handling and recovery in case there is
>>> a network issue.  There are no reconnection attempts or timeouts that
>>> deal with a temporary loss of network connectivity.
>>>
>>> This is a general problem with block/nbd.c and not something to solve in
>>> this patch series.  I'm just mentioning it because it may affect COLO
>>> replication.
>>>
>>> I'm sure these limitations in block/nbd.c can be fixed but it will take
>>> some effort.  Maybe block/sheepdog.c, net/socket.c, and other network
>>> code could also benefit from generic network connection recovery.
>>>
>>
>> Hmm, good suggestion, but IMHO, here, COLO is a little different from
>> other scenes, if the reconnection method has been implemented,
>> it still needs a mechanism to identify the temporary loss of network
>> connection or real broken in network connection.
>>
>> I did a simple test, just ifconfig down the network card that be used
>> by block replication, It seems that NBD in qemu doesn't has a ability to
>> find the connection has been broken, there was no error reports
>> and COLO just got stuck in vm_stop() where it called aio_poll().
>
> Yes, this is the vm_stop() problem again.  There is no reliable way to
> cancel I/O requests so instead QEMU waits...forever.  A solution is
> needed so COLO doesn't hang on network failure.
>

Yes, COLO needs to detect this situation and cancel the requests in a proper
way.

> I'm not sure how to solve the problem.  The secondary still has the last
> successful checkpoint so it could resume instead of waiting for the
> current checkpoint to commit.
>
> There may still be NBD I/O in flight, so the would need to drain it or
> fence storage to prevent interference once the secondary VM is running.
>

Agreed, we need to think this carefully. We'll put these reliabilities
developing in future after COLO's basic function completed.

Thanks,
Hailiang

> Stefan
>

  reply	other threads:[~2017-01-20  2:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-12-05  8:34 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC v2 0/6] COLO block replication supports shared disk case zhanghailiang
2016-12-05  8:34 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC v2 1/6] docs/block-replication: Add description for shared-disk case zhanghailiang
2016-12-20 11:23   ` Changlong Xie
2017-01-13 13:41   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-01-19  2:50     ` Hailiang Zhang
2017-01-19 16:41       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-01-20  2:35         ` Hailiang Zhang [this message]
2016-12-05  8:35 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC v2 2/6] replication: add shared-disk and shared-disk-id options zhanghailiang
2016-12-05 16:22   ` Eric Blake
2017-01-18  6:58     ` Hailiang Zhang
2016-12-20 11:34   ` Changlong Xie
2017-01-17 11:25   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-01-18  6:54     ` Hailiang Zhang
2016-12-05  8:35 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC v2 3/6] replication: Split out backup_do_checkpoint() from secondary_do_checkpoint() zhanghailiang
2016-12-20 12:41   ` Changlong Xie
2017-01-17 13:10   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2016-12-05  8:35 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC v2 4/6] replication: fix code logic with the new shared_disk option zhanghailiang
2016-12-20 12:42   ` Changlong Xie
2017-01-18  6:53     ` Hailiang Zhang
2017-01-17 13:15   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2016-12-05  8:35 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC v2 5/6] replication: Implement block replication for shared disk case zhanghailiang
2017-01-17 13:19   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-01-18  6:53     ` Hailiang Zhang
2016-12-05  8:35 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC v2 6/6] nbd/replication: implement .bdrv_get_info() for nbd and replication driver zhanghailiang

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