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From: Wei Wang <wei.w.wang@intel.com>
To: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>, "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: "virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org"
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	"stefanha@gmail.com" <stefanha@gmail.com>,
	"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	"jan.scheurich@ericsson.com" <jan.scheurich@ericsson.com>,
	"armbru@redhat.com" <armbru@redhat.com>,
	"marcandre.lureau@gmail.com" <marcandre.lureau@gmail.com>,
	"pbonzini@redhat.com" <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [virtio-dev] Re: [virtio-dev] Re: [PATCH v1] virtio-net: enable configurable tx queue size
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2017 15:17:27 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <593F9187.6040800@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f8a64b2c-e769-4e9c-1cc6-ad31ea266010@redhat.com>

On 06/13/2017 02:29 PM, Jason Wang wrote:
> The issue is what if there's a mismatch of max #sgs between qemu and
>>>> When the vhost backend is used, QEMU is not involved in the data path.
>>>> The vhost backend
>>>> directly gets what is offered by the guest from the vq. Why would
>>>> there be a mismatch of
>>>> max #sgs between QEMU and vhost, and what is the QEMU side max #sgs
>>>> used for? Thanks.
>>> You need query the backend max #sgs in this case at least. no? If not
>>> how do you know the value is supported by the backend?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>> Here is my thought: vhost backend has already been supporting 1024 sgs,
>> so I think it might not be necessary to query the max sgs that the vhost
>> backend supports. In the setup phase, when QEMU detects the backend is
>> vhost, it assumes 1024 max sgs is supported, instead of giving an extra
>> call to query.
>
> We can probably assume vhost kernel supports up to 1024 sgs. But how 
> about for other vhost-user backends?
>
So far, I haven't seen any vhost backend implementation supporting less 
than 1024 sgs.


> And what you said here makes me ask one of my questions in the past:
>
> Do we have plan to extend 1024 to a larger value or 1024 looks good 
> for the future years? If we only care about 1024, there's even no need 
> for a new config filed, a feature flag is more than enough. If we want 
> to extend it to e.g 2048, we definitely need to query vhost backend's 
> limit (even for vhost-kernel).
>

According to virtio spec (e.g. 2.4.4), unreasonably large descriptors are
not encouraged to be used by the guest. If possible, I would suggest to use
1024 as the largest number of descriptors that the guest can chain, even 
when
we have larger queue size in the future. That is,
if (backend == QEMU backend)
     config.max_chain_size = 1023 (defined by the qemu backend 
implementation);
else if (backend == vhost)
     config.max_chain_size = 1024;

It is transparent to the guest. From the guest's point of view, all it 
knows is a value
given to him via reading config.max_chain_size.


Best,
Wei

  reply	other threads:[~2017-06-13  7:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-06-05  8:57 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v1] virtio-net: enable configurable tx queue size Wei Wang
2017-06-05 15:38 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-06-05 15:41   ` Eric Blake
2017-06-05 15:45     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-06-06  3:32   ` Wei Wang
2017-06-07  1:04   ` Wei Wang
2017-06-08 19:01     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-06-09  3:00       ` Wei Wang
2017-06-12  9:30         ` [Qemu-devel] [virtio-dev] " Wei Wang
2017-06-12 20:43           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-06-13  3:10             ` Wei Wang
2017-06-13  3:19               ` Jason Wang
2017-06-13  3:51                 ` Wei Wang
2017-06-13  3:55                   ` Jason Wang
2017-06-13  3:59                     ` Jason Wang
2017-06-13  6:13                       ` Wei Wang
2017-06-13  6:31                         ` Jason Wang
2017-06-13  7:49                           ` [Qemu-devel] [virtio-dev] " Wei Wang
2017-06-13  6:08                     ` [Qemu-devel] " Wei Wang
2017-06-13  6:29                       ` [Qemu-devel] [virtio-dev] " Jason Wang
2017-06-13  7:17                         ` Wei Wang [this message]
2017-06-13  9:04                           ` Jason Wang
2017-06-13  9:50                             ` Wei Wang
2017-06-13 10:46                               ` Jason Wang
2017-06-14 11:26                                 ` Jason Wang
2017-06-14 15:22                                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-06-15  4:16                                     ` Jason Wang
2017-06-15  6:52                                       ` [Qemu-devel] [virtio-dev] " Wei Wang
2017-06-16  3:22                                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-06-16  8:57                                           ` Jason Wang
2017-06-16 10:10                                             ` Wei Wang
2017-06-16 15:15                                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-06-17  8:37                                                 ` Wei Wang
2017-06-18 19:46                                                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-06-19  7:40                                                     ` Wei Wang
2017-06-16 15:19                                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-06-16 17:04                                               ` Maxime Coquelin
2017-06-16 20:33                                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-06-05 15:47 ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin

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