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From: Wei Wang <wei.w.wang@intel.com>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
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Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v16 5/5] virtio-balloon: VIRTIO_BALLOON_F_CTRL_VQ
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2017 14:03:20 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <59DDB428.4020208@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20171010180636-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org>

On 10/10/2017 11:15 PM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 02, 2017 at 04:38:01PM +0000, Wang, Wei W wrote:
>> On Sunday, October 1, 2017 11:19 AM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
>>> On Sat, Sep 30, 2017 at 12:05:54PM +0800, Wei Wang wrote:
>>>> +static void ctrlq_send_cmd(struct virtio_balloon *vb,
>>>> +			  struct virtio_balloon_ctrlq_cmd *cmd,
>>>> +			  bool inbuf)
>>>> +{
>>>> +	struct virtqueue *vq = vb->ctrl_vq;
>>>> +
>>>> +	ctrlq_add_cmd(vq, cmd, inbuf);
>>>> +	if (!inbuf) {
>>>> +		/*
>>>> +		 * All the input cmd buffers are replenished here.
>>>> +		 * This is necessary because the input cmd buffers are lost
>>>> +		 * after live migration. The device needs to rewind all of
>>>> +		 * them from the ctrl_vq.
>>> Confused. Live migration somehow loses state? Why is that and why is it a good
>>> idea? And how do you know this is migration even?
>>> Looks like all you know is you got free page end. Could be any reason for this.
>>
>> I think this would be something that the current live migration lacks - what the
>> device read from the vq is not transferred during live migration, an example is the
>> stat_vq_elem:
>> Line 476 at https://github.com/qemu/qemu/blob/master/hw/virtio/virtio-balloon.c
> This does not touch guest memory though it just manipulates
> internal state to make it easier to migrate.
> It's transparent to guest as migration should be.
>
>> For all the things that are added to the vq and need to be held by the device
>> to use later need to consider the situation that live migration might happen at any
>> time and they need to be re-taken from the vq by the device on the destination
>> machine.
>>
>> So, even without this live migration optimization feature, I think all the things that are
>> added to the vq for the device to hold, need a way for the device to rewind back from
>> the vq - re-adding all the elements to the vq is a trick to keep a record of all of them
>> on the vq so that the device side rewinding can work.
>>
>> Please let me know if anything is missed or if you have other suggestions.
> IMO migration should pass enough data source to destination for
> destination to continue where source left off without guest help.
>

I'm afraid it would be difficult to pass the entire VirtQueueElement to 
the destination. I think
that would also be the reason that stats_vq_elem chose to rewind from 
the guest vq, which re-do the
virtqueue_pop() --> virtqueue_map_desc() steps (the QEMU virtual address 
to the guest physical
address relationship may be changed on the destination).


How about another direction which would be easier - using two 32-bit 
device specific configuration registers,
Host2Guest and Guest2Host command registers, to replace the ctrlq for 
command exchange:

The flow can be as follows:

1) Before Host sending a StartCMD, it flushes the free_page_vq in case 
any old free page hint is left there;

2) Host writes StartCMD to the Host2Guest register, and notifies the guest;

3) Upon receiving a configuration notification, Guest reads the 
Host2Guest register, and detaches all the used buffers from free_page_vq;
(then for each StartCMD, the free_page_vq will always have no obsolete 
free page hints, right? )

4) Guest start report free pages:
     4.1) Host may actively write StopCMD to the Host2Guest register 
before the guest finishes; or
     4.2) Guest finishes reporting, write StopCMD  the Guest2HOST 
register, which traps to QEMU, to stop.


Best,
Wei

  reply	other threads:[~2017-10-11  6:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-09-30  4:05 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v16 0/5] Virtio-balloon Enhancement Wei Wang
2017-09-30  4:05 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v16 1/5] lib/xbitmap: Introduce xbitmap Wei Wang
2017-10-09 11:30   ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-09-30  4:05 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v16 2/5] radix tree test suite: add tests for xbitmap Wei Wang
2017-09-30  4:05 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v16 3/5] virtio-balloon: VIRTIO_BALLOON_F_SG Wei Wang
2017-10-02  4:30   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-10-02 12:39     ` Wang, Wei W
2017-10-02 13:44       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-10-09 15:20   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-10-10  7:28     ` Wei Wang
2017-10-10 11:08       ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-10-10 12:32         ` Wei Wang
2017-10-10 13:09           ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-10-11  1:51             ` Wei Wang
2017-10-11  2:26               ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-10-11  3:16                 ` Wei Wang
2017-09-30  4:05 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v16 4/5] mm: support reporting free page blocks Wei Wang
2017-10-03 14:50   ` Michal Hocko
2017-09-30  4:05 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v16 5/5] virtio-balloon: VIRTIO_BALLOON_F_CTRL_VQ Wei Wang
2017-10-01  3:18   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-10-02 16:38     ` Wang, Wei W
2017-10-10 15:15       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-10-11  6:03         ` Wei Wang [this message]
2017-10-11 13:49           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-10-12  3:54             ` Wei Wang
2017-10-13 13:38               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-10-19  8:07                 ` Wei Wang
2017-10-01 13:16 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v16 0/5] Virtio-balloon Enhancement Damian Tometzki
2017-10-01 13:25 ` Damian Tometzki
2017-10-09  9:39   ` Wei Wang

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