From: "Jorge Lucángeli Obes" <t4m5yn@gmail.com>
To: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
Cc: kvm-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [kvm-devel] [Qemu-devel] Re: Storing command line options in images
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 22:41:41 -0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <59abf66e0708101841i76e26a35vcbc8df14b21f1ac0@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <46BCC666.6050406@codemonkey.ws>
> > My feeling is that config files are outdated. When used with a gui,
> > you end up writing silly parsers and stuff and still wrecking things
> > horribly when the the gui writer's expectations don't match reality.
> > When used without a gui, they increase the amount of details one has
> > to remember (where's that config file? I renamed my image, did I
> > remember to update the config file?). They also make upgrading more
> > difficult.
>
> There's only so much that can be expressed on a command line. There are
> actually limits to the command line size on a lot of platforms. I don't
> see why reading options from a file is so much worse than reading them
> from the command line.
In my view, the bottom line is: we need an _easy_ way of launching VMs
when one doesn't want all the options of the managed approach. I back
Avi on this one, I would like to be able to do
qemu guest.img
without worrying about configuration files, or XML, or parsing. That's
not to say that a global configuration file for QEMU wouldn't be
useful, but I think it would solve a different problem.
When I read Avi's TODO, I basically thought about getting rid of the
long command lines I had to store in scripts. I wanted to write that
command line once, and then forgetting about it, until I needed to
change it. I wanted an image to be self-contained as much as possible.
That's what I set to achieve.
All that said, I rethought Anthony's idea of storing plain text in the
image and with proper tools, it can work out. I don't like the idea of
having users overwriting and padding files, but the approach seems
less of a hack than using empty snapshots. In short: I think we will
need to have something like 'qemu-img cmdline' anyways, independent of
the implementation. That's because I would like an implementation that
does not depend on extra files. For that, we already have libvirt and
the likes.
Cheers,
Jorge
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-08-11 1:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-08-10 4:55 [Qemu-devel] Storing command line options in images Jorge Lucángeli Obes
2007-08-10 16:02 ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [kvm-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2007-08-10 17:14 ` Avi Kivity
2007-08-10 18:43 ` [kvm-devel] [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2007-08-10 19:41 ` Avi Kivity
2007-08-10 20:11 ` Anthony Liguori
2007-08-11 1:41 ` Jorge Lucángeli Obes [this message]
2007-08-13 8:55 ` Avi Kivity
2007-08-13 9:19 ` Laurent Vivier
2007-08-13 9:27 ` Christian MICHON
2007-08-14 14:18 ` Markus Hitter
2007-08-14 14:31 ` Laurent Vivier
2007-08-14 19:02 ` Jorge Lucángeli Obes
2007-08-14 20:07 ` Thiemo Seufer
2007-08-14 20:46 ` Christian MICHON
2007-08-13 19:39 ` Thiemo Seufer
2007-08-13 20:26 ` Christian MICHON
2007-08-13 22:21 ` Philip Boulain
2007-08-13 22:27 ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [kvm-devel] " Jernej Simončič
2007-08-13 23:31 ` [kvm-devel] [Qemu-devel] " Thiemo Seufer
2007-08-14 14:26 ` Philip Boulain
2007-08-14 3:17 ` Anthony Liguori
2007-08-14 4:39 ` Jorge Lucángeli Obes
2007-08-14 7:44 ` Kevin Wolf
2007-08-14 7:46 ` Laurent Vivier
2007-08-15 21:26 ` Segher Boessenkool
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