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From: Wei Wang <wei.w.wang@intel.com>
To: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>, Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] vhost-pci and virtio-vhost-user
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2018 18:43:41 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5A5C85DD.10705@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6b618d06-0891-fb3b-b845-8beae5649b22@redhat.com>

On 01/15/2018 04:34 PM, Jason Wang wrote:
>
>
> On 2018年01月15日 15:59, Wei Wang wrote:
>> On 01/15/2018 02:56 PM, Jason Wang wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2018年01月12日 18:18, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
>>>>
>>>
>>> I just fail understand why we can't do software defined network or 
>>> storage with exist virtio device/drivers (or are there any 
>>> shortcomings that force us to invent new infrastructure).
>>>
>>
>> Existing virtio-net works with a host central vSwitch, and it has the 
>> following disadvantages:
>> 1) long code/data path;
>> 2) poor scalability; and
>> 3) host CPU sacrifice
>
> Please show me the numbers.

Sure. For 64B packet transmission between two VMs: vhost-user reports 
~6.8Mpps, and vhost-pci reports ~11Mpps, which is ~1.62x faster.


>
>>
>> Vhost-pci solves the above issues by providing a point-to-point 
>> communication between VMs. No matter how the control path would look 
>> like finally, the key point is that the data path is P2P between VMs.
>>
>> Best,
>> Wei
>>
>>
>
> Well, I think I've pointed out several times in the replies of 
> previous versions. Both vhost-pci-net and virtio-net is an ethernet 
> device, which is not tied to a central vswitch for sure. There're just 
> too many methods or tricks which can be used to build a point to point 
> data path.


Could you please show an existing example that makes virtio-net work 
without a host vswitch/bridge?
Could you also share other p2p data path solutions that you have in 
mind? Thanks.


Best,
Wei

  reply	other threads:[~2018-01-15 10:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-01-10 16:14 [Qemu-devel] vhost-pci and virtio-vhost-user Stefan Hajnoczi
2018-01-11  6:31 ` Wei Wang
2018-01-11  9:56   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2018-01-12  6:44     ` Wei Wang
2018-01-12 10:37       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2018-01-14  3:36         ` Wang, Wei W
2018-01-15 14:02           ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2018-01-11 10:57 ` Jason Wang
2018-01-11 15:23   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2018-01-12  3:32     ` Jason Wang
2018-01-12  5:20       ` Yang, Zhiyong
2018-01-15  3:09         ` Jason Wang
2018-01-12 10:18       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2018-01-15  6:56         ` Jason Wang
2018-01-15  7:59           ` Wei Wang
2018-01-15  8:34             ` Jason Wang
2018-01-15 10:43               ` Wei Wang [this message]
2018-01-16  5:33                 ` Jason Wang
2018-01-17  8:44                   ` Wei Wang
2018-01-15 13:56           ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2018-01-16  5:41             ` Jason Wang
2018-01-18 10:51               ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2018-01-18 11:51                 ` Jason Wang
2018-01-19 17:20                   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2018-01-22  3:54                     ` Jason Wang
2018-01-23 11:52                       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2018-01-15  7:56         ` Wei Wang

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