From: Wei Wang <wei.w.wang@intel.com>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org,
quintela@redhat.com, dgilbert@redhat.com, pbonzini@redhat.com,
liliang.opensource@gmail.com, yang.zhang.wz@gmail.com,
quan.xu0@gmail.com, nilal@redhat.com, riel@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 2/3] virtio-balloon: VIRTIO_BALLOON_F_FREE_PAGE_HINT
Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2018 09:54:49 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5A9DF4E9.3090706@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180305155642-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org>
On 03/05/2018 10:09 PM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 05, 2018 at 11:36:15AM +0800, Wei Wang wrote:
>> On 03/03/2018 02:37 AM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
>>> On Fri, Mar 02, 2018 at 04:47:29PM +0800, Wei Wang wrote:
>>>> diff --git a/include/sysemu/balloon.h b/include/sysemu/balloon.h
>>>> index af49e19..16a2aae 100644
>>>> --- a/include/sysemu/balloon.h
>>>> +++ b/include/sysemu/balloon.h
>>> ...
>>>
>>>> +typedef void (QEMUBalloonFreePageStart)(void *opaque);
>>>> +typedef void (QEMUBalloonFreePageStop)(void *opaque);
>>> So I think the rule is that no bitmap sync must happen
>>> between these two, otherwise a hint might arrive and
>>> override the sync output.
>>>
>>> Should be documented I think.
>>>
>> Yes, agree.
> Ideally we'd also detect violations and trigger an assert.
How about just invoking
if (rs->free_page_support)
balloon_free_page_stop();
at the beginning of migration_bitmap_sync()? (balloon_free_page_stop
will just return if the optimization has stopped.)
In this way, we can always have the guarantee that "no bitmap sync must
happen between these two"
>
>> How about adding the following new balloon API explanation to
>> this patch's commit:
>>
>> - balloon_free_page_start: Callers call this API to obtain guest free
>> page hints, and clear the related bits from the migration dirty
>> bitmap.
>> The whole process is implemented in a new thread independent of the
>> migration thread. Free page hints imply the part of guest memory is
>> likely to be free without a guarantee. That is, the reported free
>> pages
>> may not be free any more when QEMU receives them, so callers are
>> responsible for detecting those pages that are not free pages after
>> the
>> bits are cleared from the dirty bitmap. To ensure the above, this API
>> should be used when the migration dirty logging mechanism (e.g.
>> guest memory write-protection) has started.
>>
>> - balloon_free_page_stop: Callers call this API to stop the guest from
>> reporting free page hints. Bits from the dirty bitmap are safe to
>> be cleared on condition that the dirty logging mechanism is recording
>> pages that the guest has written to. To avoid the case that clearing
>> bits of free page hints overrides the dirty bits offered by the dirty
>> logging mechanism, this API is suggested to be called before QEMU
>> synchronizes the dirty logging bitmap.
>>
>> - balloon_free_page_support: This API is called to check whether the
>> balloon device supports the guest free page reporting feature. The
>> balloon_free_page_start and balloon_free_page_stop APIs should be used
>> only when this API returns true.
>>
>>
>> Best,
>> Wei
> I find this more confusing than explaining.
>
> Let me try
>
> balloon_free_page_start - start guest free page hint reporting.
> Note: balloon will report pages which were free at the time
> of this call. As the reporting happens asynchronously,
> we rely on dirty logging to be started before this call is made.
>
> The dirty logging bitmap must be synchronized before this call
> and then after balloon_free_page_stop.
I think it would be better to remove the above one sentence.
I agree "No dirty bitmap synchronizations are allowed between
balloon_free_page_start and balloon_free_page_stop", but "The dirty
logging bitmap MUST be synchronized before balloon_free_page_start"
seems confusing, for example the bulk stage doesn't have to start with a
bitmap sync.
>
> balloon_free_page_stop: stop the guest reporting
> of free pages. dirty logging bitmap can be synchronized
> after this point.
>
> No bitmap synchronizations are allowed between these two points.
>
Best,
Wei
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-03-06 1:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-03-02 8:47 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 0/3] virtio-balloon: free page hint reporting support Wei Wang
2018-03-02 8:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 1/3] migration: API to clear bits of guest free pages from the dirty bitmap Wei Wang
2018-03-07 12:23 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-03-07 12:57 ` Wei Wang
2018-03-02 8:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 2/3] virtio-balloon: VIRTIO_BALLOON_F_FREE_PAGE_HINT Wei Wang
2018-03-02 18:27 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-03-02 18:37 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-03-05 3:36 ` Wei Wang
2018-03-05 14:09 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-03-06 1:54 ` Wei Wang [this message]
2018-03-06 2:38 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-03-07 13:09 ` Wei Wang
2018-03-02 8:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 3/3] migration: use the free page hint feature from balloon Wei Wang
2018-03-07 12:32 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-03-07 12:57 ` Wei Wang
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