From: Wei Wang <wei.w.wang@intel.com>
To: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
Cc: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org,
quintela@redhat.com, dgilbert@redhat.com, pbonzini@redhat.com,
liliang.opensource@gmail.com, yang.zhang.wz@gmail.com,
quan.xu0@gmail.com, nilal@redhat.com, riel@redhat.com,
zhang.zhanghailiang@huawei.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v7 4/5] virtio-balloon: VIRTIO_BALLOON_F_FREE_PAGE_HINT
Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2018 18:04:23 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5B17B1A7.8060307@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180606054227.GA7815@xz-mi>
On 06/06/2018 01:42 PM, Peter Xu wrote:
>
> IMHO migration states do not suite here. IMHO bitmap syncing is too
> frequently an operation, especially at the end of a precopy migration.
> If you really want to introduce some notifiers, I would prefer
> something new rather than fiddling around with migration state. E.g.,
> maybe a new migration event notifiers, then introduce two new events
> for both start/end of bitmap syncing.
Please see if below aligns to what you meant:
MigrationState {
...
+ int ram_save_state;
}
typedef enum RamSaveState {
RAM_SAVE_BEGIN = 0,
RAM_SAVE_END = 1,
RAM_SAVE_MAX = 2
}
then at the step 1) and 3) you concluded somewhere below, we change the
state and invoke the callback.
Btw, the migration_state_notifiers is already there, but seems not
really used (I only tracked spice-core.c called
add_migration_state_change_notifier). I thought adding new migration
states can reuse all that we have.
What's your real concern about that? (not sure how defining new events
would make a difference)
>> I would suggest to focus on the supplied interface and its usage in live
>> migration. That is, now we have two APIs, start() and stop(), to start and
>> stop the optimization.
>>
>> 1) where in the migration code should we use them (do you agree with the
>> step (1), (2), (3) you concluded below?)
>> 2) how should we use them, directly do global call or via notifiers?
> I don't know how Dave and Juan might think; here I tend to agree with
> Michael that some notifier framework should be nicer.
>
What would be the advantages of using notifiers here?
> This is not that obvious to me. For now I think it's true, since when
> we call stop() we'll take the mutex, meanwhile the mutex is actually
> always held by the iothread (in the big loop in
> virtio_balloon_poll_free_page_hints) until either:
>
> - it sleeps in qemu_cond_wait() [1], or
> - it leaves the big loop [2]
>
> Since I don't see anyone who will set dev->block_iothread to true for
> the balloon device, then [1] cannot happen;
there is a case in virtio_balloon_set_status which sets
dev->block_iothread to true.
Did you mean the free_page_lock mutex? it is released at the bottom of
the while() loop in virtio_balloon_poll_free_page_hint. It's actually
released for every hint. That is,
while(1){
take the lock;
process 1 hint from the vq;
release the lock;
}
> then I think when stop()
> has taken the mutex then the thread must have quitted the big loop,
> which goes to path [2]. I am not sure my understanding is correct,
> but in all cases "Step(1) guarantees us that the QEMU side
> optimization call has exited" is not obvious to me. Would you add
> some comment to the code (or even improve the code itself somehow) to
> help people understand that?
>
> For example, I saw that the old github code has a pthread_join() (in
> that old code it was not using iothread at all). That's a very good
> code example so that people can understand that it's a synchronous
> operations.
>> This is enough. If the guest continues to report after that, that
>> reported hints will be detected as stale hints and dropped in the next start
>> of optimization.
> This is not clear to me too. Say, stop() only sets the balloon status
> to STOP, AFAIU it does not really modify the cmd_id field immediately,
> then how will the new coming hints be known as stale hints?
Yes, you get that correctly - stop() only sets the status to STOP. On
the other side, virtio_balloon_poll_free_page_hints will stop when it
sees the staus is STOP. The free_page_lock guarantees that when stop()
returns, virtio_balloon_poll_free_page_hints will not proceed. When
virtio_balloon_poll_free_page_hints exits, the coming hints are not
processed any more. They just stay in the vq. The next time start() is
called, virtio_balloon_poll_free_page_hints works again, it will first
drop all those stale hints.
I'll see where I could add some comments to explain.
Best,
Wei
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-06-06 10:00 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-04-24 6:13 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v7 0/5] virtio-balloon: free page hint reporting support Wei Wang
2018-04-24 6:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v7 1/5] bitmap: bitmap_count_one_with_offset Wei Wang
2018-04-24 6:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v7 2/5] migration: use bitmap_mutex in migration_bitmap_clear_dirty Wei Wang
2018-06-01 3:37 ` Peter Xu
2018-04-24 6:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v7 3/5] migration: API to clear bits of guest free pages from the dirty bitmap Wei Wang
2018-06-01 4:00 ` Peter Xu
2018-06-01 7:36 ` Wei Wang
2018-06-01 10:06 ` Peter Xu
2018-06-01 12:32 ` Wei Wang
2018-06-04 2:49 ` Peter Xu
2018-06-04 7:43 ` Wei Wang
2018-04-24 6:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v7 4/5] virtio-balloon: VIRTIO_BALLOON_F_FREE_PAGE_HINT Wei Wang
2018-05-29 15:24 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-05-30 9:12 ` Wei Wang
2018-05-30 12:47 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-05-31 2:27 ` Wei Wang
2018-05-31 17:42 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-01 3:18 ` Wei Wang
2018-06-04 8:04 ` Wei Wang
2018-06-05 6:58 ` Peter Xu
2018-06-05 13:22 ` Wei Wang
2018-06-06 5:42 ` Peter Xu
2018-06-06 10:04 ` Wei Wang [this message]
2018-06-06 11:02 ` Peter Xu
2018-06-07 5:24 ` Wei Wang
2018-06-07 6:32 ` Peter Xu
2018-06-07 11:59 ` Wei Wang
2018-06-08 2:17 ` Peter Xu
2018-06-08 7:14 ` Wei Wang
2018-06-08 7:31 ` Wei Wang
2018-06-06 6:43 ` Peter Xu
2018-06-06 10:11 ` Wei Wang
2018-06-07 3:17 ` Peter Xu
2018-06-07 5:29 ` Wei Wang
2018-06-07 6:58 ` Peter Xu
2018-06-07 12:01 ` Wei Wang
2018-06-08 1:37 ` Peter Xu
2018-06-08 1:58 ` Peter Xu
2018-06-08 1:58 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-08 2:34 ` Peter Xu
2018-06-08 2:49 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-08 3:34 ` Peter Xu
2018-04-24 6:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v7 5/5] migration: use the free page hint feature from balloon Wei Wang
2018-04-24 6:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v7 0/5] virtio-balloon: free page hint reporting support Wei Wang
2018-05-14 1:22 ` Wei Wang
2018-05-29 15:00 ` Hailiang Zhang
2018-05-29 15:24 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-01 4:58 ` Peter Xu
2018-06-01 5:07 ` Peter Xu
2018-06-01 7:29 ` Wei Wang
2018-06-01 10:02 ` Peter Xu
2018-06-01 12:31 ` Wei Wang
2018-06-01 7:21 ` Wei Wang
2018-06-01 10:40 ` Peter Xu
2018-06-01 15:33 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-06-05 6:42 ` Peter Xu
2018-06-05 14:40 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-05 14:39 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
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