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From: Wei Wang <wei.w.wang@intel.com>
To: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org,
	mst@redhat.com, quintela@redhat.com, dgilbert@redhat.com,
	yang.zhang.wz@gmail.com, quan.xu0@gmail.com,
	liliang.opensource@gmail.com, pbonzini@redhat.com,
	nilal@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v7 4/5] virtio-balloon: VIRTIO_BALLOON_F_FREE_PAGE_HINT
Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2018 20:01:42 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5B191EA6.3020004@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180607065808.GB750@xz-mi>

On 06/07/2018 02:58 PM, Peter Xu wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 07, 2018 at 01:29:22PM +0800, Wei Wang wrote:
>>>>> [...]
>>>>>> +static const VMStateDescription vmstate_virtio_balloon_free_page_report = {
>>>>>> +    .name = "virtio-balloon-device/free-page-report",
>>>>>> +    .version_id = 1,
>>>>>> +    .minimum_version_id = 1,
>>>>>> +    .needed = virtio_balloon_free_page_support,
>>>>>> +    .fields = (VMStateField[]) {
>>>>>> +        VMSTATE_UINT32(free_page_report_cmd_id, VirtIOBalloon),
>>>>>> +        VMSTATE_UINT32(poison_val, VirtIOBalloon),
>>>>> (could we move all the poison-related lines into another patch or
>>>>>     postpone?  after all we don't support it yet, do we?)
>>>>>
>>>>    We don't support migrating poison value, but guest maybe use it, so we are
>>>> actually disabling this feature in that case. Probably good to leave the
>>>> code together to handle that case.
>>> Could we just avoid declaring that feature bit in emulation code
>>> completely?  I mean, we support VIRTIO_BALLOON_F_FREE_PAGE_HINT first
>>> as the first step (as you mentioned in commit message, the POISON is a
>>> TODO).  Then when you really want to completely support the POISON
>>> bit, you can put all that into a separate patch.  Would that work?
>>>
>> Not really. The F_PAGE_POISON isn't a feature configured via QEMU cmd line
>> like F_FREE_PAGE_HINT. We always set F_PAGE_POISON if F_FREE_PAGE_HINT is
>> enabled. It is used to detect if the guest is using page poison.
> Ok I think I kind of understand.  But it seems strange to me to have
> this as a feature bit.  I thought it suites more to be a config field
> so that guest could setup.  Like, we can have 1 byte to setup "whether
> PAGE_POISON is used in the guest", another 1 byte to setup "what is
> the PAGE_POISON value if it's enabled".

This is also suggested by Michael, which sounds good to me. Using config 
is doable, but that doesn't show advantages over using feature bits.



>
> Asked since I see this in virtio spec (v1.0, though I guess it won't
> change) in chapter "2.2.1 Driver Requirements: Feature Bits":
>
> "The driver MUST NOT accept a feature which the device did not offer"
>
> Then I'm curious what would happen if:
>
> - a emulator (not QEMU) only offered F_FREE_PAGE_HINT, not F_POISON
> - a guest that enabled PAGE_POISON
>
> Then how the driver could tell the host that PAGE_POISON is enabled
> considering that guest should never set that feature bit if the
> emulation code didn't provide it?
>

All the emulator implementations need to follow the virtio spec. We will 
finally have this feature written to the virtio-balloon device section, 
and state that the F_PAGE_POISON needs to be set on the device when 
F_FREE_PAGE_HINT is set on the device.


Best,
Wei

  reply	other threads:[~2018-06-07 11:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-04-24  6:13 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v7 0/5] virtio-balloon: free page hint reporting support Wei Wang
2018-04-24  6:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v7 1/5] bitmap: bitmap_count_one_with_offset Wei Wang
2018-04-24  6:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v7 2/5] migration: use bitmap_mutex in migration_bitmap_clear_dirty Wei Wang
2018-06-01  3:37   ` Peter Xu
2018-04-24  6:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v7 3/5] migration: API to clear bits of guest free pages from the dirty bitmap Wei Wang
2018-06-01  4:00   ` Peter Xu
2018-06-01  7:36     ` Wei Wang
2018-06-01 10:06       ` Peter Xu
2018-06-01 12:32         ` Wei Wang
2018-06-04  2:49           ` Peter Xu
2018-06-04  7:43             ` Wei Wang
2018-04-24  6:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v7 4/5] virtio-balloon: VIRTIO_BALLOON_F_FREE_PAGE_HINT Wei Wang
2018-05-29 15:24   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-05-30  9:12     ` Wei Wang
2018-05-30 12:47       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-05-31  2:27         ` Wei Wang
2018-05-31 17:42           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-01  3:18             ` Wei Wang
2018-06-04  8:04         ` Wei Wang
2018-06-05  6:58           ` Peter Xu
2018-06-05 13:22             ` Wei Wang
2018-06-06  5:42               ` Peter Xu
2018-06-06 10:04                 ` Wei Wang
2018-06-06 11:02                   ` Peter Xu
2018-06-07  5:24                     ` Wei Wang
2018-06-07  6:32                       ` Peter Xu
2018-06-07 11:59                         ` Wei Wang
2018-06-08  2:17                           ` Peter Xu
2018-06-08  7:14                             ` Wei Wang
2018-06-08  7:31                         ` Wei Wang
2018-06-06  6:43   ` Peter Xu
2018-06-06 10:11     ` Wei Wang
2018-06-07  3:17       ` Peter Xu
2018-06-07  5:29         ` Wei Wang
2018-06-07  6:58           ` Peter Xu
2018-06-07 12:01             ` Wei Wang [this message]
2018-06-08  1:37               ` Peter Xu
2018-06-08  1:58                 ` Peter Xu
2018-06-08  1:58                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-08  2:34                   ` Peter Xu
2018-06-08  2:49                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-08  3:34                       ` Peter Xu
2018-04-24  6:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v7 5/5] migration: use the free page hint feature from balloon Wei Wang
2018-04-24  6:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v7 0/5] virtio-balloon: free page hint reporting support Wei Wang
2018-05-14  1:22 ` Wei Wang
2018-05-29 15:00 ` Hailiang Zhang
2018-05-29 15:24   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-01  4:58 ` Peter Xu
2018-06-01  5:07   ` Peter Xu
2018-06-01  7:29     ` Wei Wang
2018-06-01 10:02       ` Peter Xu
2018-06-01 12:31         ` Wei Wang
2018-06-01  7:21   ` Wei Wang
2018-06-01 10:40     ` Peter Xu
2018-06-01 15:33       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-06-05  6:42         ` Peter Xu
2018-06-05 14:40           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-05 14:39         ` Michael S. Tsirkin

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