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From: James Bottomley <jejb@linux.ibm.com>
To: "Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Stefan Berger <stefanb@linux.ibm.com>,
	Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] tpm: add backend for mssim
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2022 07:47:28 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5a91ffbd8fa01d8f60df4cc14bcc53eeb3cc93e4.camel@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Y5mz96wJN9+nxLs8@redhat.com>

On Wed, 2022-12-14 at 11:31 +0000, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 12, 2022 at 05:06:05PM -0500, James Bottomley wrote:
> > On Mon, 2022-12-12 at 15:47 +0000, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
> > > Copy'ing Markus for QAPI design feedback.
> > > 
> > > On Sat, Dec 10, 2022 at 12:10:18PM -0500, James Bottomley wrote:
> > [...]
> > > > +##
> > > > +# @TPMmssimOptions:
> > > > +#
> > > > +# Information for the mssim emulator connection
> > > > +#
> > > > +# @host: host name or IP address to connect to
> > > > +# @port: port for the standard TPM commands
> > > > +# @ctrl: control port for TPM state changes
> > > > +#
> > > > +# Since: 7.2.0
> > > > +##
> > > > +{ 'struct': 'TPMmssimOptions',
> > > > +  'data': {
> > > > +      'host': 'str',
> > > > +      'port': 'str',
> > > > +      'ctrl': 'str' },
> > > > +  'if': 'CONFIG_TPM' }
> > > 
> > > We don't want to be adding new code using plain host/port combos,
> > > as that misses extra functionality for controlling IPv4 vs IPv6
> > > usage.
> > > 
> > > The existing 'emulator' backend references a chardev, but I'm
> > > not especially in favour of using the chardev indirection either,
> > > when all we should really need is a SocketAddress
> > > 
> > > IOW, from a QAPI design POV, IMHO the best practice would be
> > > 
> > >  { 'struct': 'TPMmssimOptions',
> > >    'data': {
> > >        'command': 'SocketAddress',
> > >        'control': 'SocketAddress' },
> > >    'if': 'CONFIG_TPM' }
> > > 
> > > 
> > > The main wrinkle with this is that exprssing nested struct fields
> > > with QemuOpts is a disaster zone, and -tpmdev doesn't yet support
> > > JSON syntax.
> > > 
> > > IMHO we should just fix the latter problem, as I don't think it
> > > ought to be too hard. Probably a cut+paste / search/replace job
> > > on the chanmge we did for -device in:
> > > 
> > >   commit 5dacda5167560b3af8eadbce5814f60ba44b467e
> > >   Author: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>
> > >   Date:   Fri Oct 8 15:34:42 2021 +0200
> > > 
> > >     vl: Enable JSON syntax for -device
> > > 
> > > This would mean we could use plain -tpmdev for a local instance
> > > 
> > >    -tpmdev mssim,id=tpm0 \
> > >     -device tpm-crb,tpmdev=tpm0 \
> > > 
> > > but to use a remote emulator we would use
> > > 
> > >     -tpmdev "{'backend': 'mssim', 'id': 'tpm0',
> > >               'command': {
> > >                  'type': 'inet',
> > >                  'host': 'remote',
> > >                  'port': '4455'
> > >                },
> > >               'control': {
> > >                  'type': 'inet',
> > >                  'host': 'remote',
> > >                  'port': '4456'
> > >                }}"
> > > 
> > > (without the whitepace/newlines, which i just used for sake of
> > > clarity)
> > 
> > Just on this, might it not be easier for the commandline to do what
> > gluster does?  just use the '.' as a separator and subqdict
> > extraction, so you'd specify
> > 
> > -tpmdev
> > mssim,id=tpm0,command.type=inet,command.host=remote,command.port=44
> > 55,control.type=inet,control.host=remote,control.port=4456
> > 
> > With the added bonus that X.type could be defaulted to inet and
> > control.host could follow command.host and so on?
> 
> These days, we have a policy of not tyring to map nested data onto
> the flat QemuOpts. This has been done in several areas and we've
> ended up with a mess of ever so slightly different impls each with
> their own flaws. This is why our preferred approach these days is to
> add support for JSON syntax to enable non-flat config.

Well, OK, but I've got to say on behalf of shell script writers
everywhere that using json for command line arguments is a textbook
definition of cruel and unusual punishment.

James



  reply	other threads:[~2022-12-14 12:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-12-10 17:10 [PATCH] tpm: add backend for mssim James Bottomley
2022-12-12 13:43 ` Stefan Berger
2022-12-12 13:59   ` James Bottomley
2022-12-12 14:27     ` Stefan Berger
2022-12-12 14:32       ` James Bottomley
2022-12-12 14:44         ` Stefan Berger
2022-12-12 14:47           ` James Bottomley
2022-12-12 15:20             ` Stefan Berger
2022-12-12 15:28               ` James Bottomley
2022-12-12 15:46                 ` Stefan Berger
2022-12-12 15:47 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2022-12-12 16:38   ` James Bottomley
2022-12-12 16:59     ` Stefan Berger
2022-12-12 18:48       ` James Bottomley
2022-12-12 18:58         ` Stefan Berger
2022-12-12 19:12           ` James Bottomley
2022-12-12 19:32             ` Stefan Berger
2022-12-12 20:24               ` Stefan Berger
2022-12-12 21:36               ` James Bottomley
2022-12-12 22:02                 ` Stefan Berger
2022-12-12 22:27                   ` James Bottomley
2022-12-12 22:43                     ` Stefan Berger
2022-12-14 11:52                   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2022-12-14 12:43                     ` James Bottomley
2022-12-15  2:42                       ` Stefan Berger
2022-12-14 11:55           ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2022-12-12 22:06   ` James Bottomley
2022-12-14 11:31     ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2022-12-14 12:47       ` James Bottomley [this message]
2022-12-14 14:17         ` Markus Armbruster

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