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From: "Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <philmd@linaro.org>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Richard Henderson <richard.henderson@linaro.org>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Cc: imammedo@redhat.com, peterx@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/8] accel/tcg: introduce tcg_kick_vcpu_thread
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2025 15:34:07 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5aa47304-f516-483f-a442-90ab5a1a20f8@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0b1f2388-a1a8-457e-a60c-3f34f6f1bf80@linaro.org>

On 11/8/25 10:33, Philippe Mathieu-Daudé wrote:
> On 11/8/25 08:10, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
>> On 8/10/25 01:26, Richard Henderson wrote:
>>> On 8/9/25 04:59, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
>>>> +void tcg_kick_vcpu_thread(CPUState *cpu)
>>>> +{
>>>> +    /*
>>>> +     * Ensure cpu_exec will see the reason why the exit request was 
>>>> set.
>>>> +     * FIXME: this is not always needed.  Other accelerators instead
>>>> +     * read interrupt_request and set exit_request on demand from the
>>>> +     * CPU thread; see kvm_arch_pre_run() for example.
>>>> +     */
>>>> +    qatomic_store_release(&cpu->exit_request, 1);
>>>> +
>>>> +    /* Ensure cpu_exec will see the exit request after TCG has 
>>>> exited.  */
>>>> +    qatomic_store_release(&cpu->neg.icount_decr.u16.high, -1);
>>>> +}
>>>
>>> So, now both cpu_exit and cpu_kick set exit_request.
>>>
>>> You ifdef this out again for user-only in patch 7, but this does 
>>> suggest that kick and exit are essentially interchangeable.  You 
>>> rearrange things a bit in patch 6, but it's still not clear to me 
>>> what the difference between the two should be.  There's certainly 
>>> nothing at all in include/hw/core/cpu.h to differentiate them.
>>>
>>> Should we instead eliminate one of kick or exit, unifying the paths?
>> In cpu-exec.c terms, qemu_cpu_kick() *should* go out to 
>> cpu_handle_interrupt() whereas cpu_exit() *should* go out to 
>> cpu_handle_exception().  The difference matters for some accelerators 
>> where qemu_cpu_kick() tries not to take the BQL in the vCPU thread.
> 
> While I'm still learning this area, this answer makes sense to me.
> If this is correct (reviewed by others), can we document it in the
> corresponding prototype declarations?

Maybe we can rename as something like cpu_kick_for_interrupt() and
cpu_exit_for_exception()?  Or cpu_kick_maybe_[handle]_interrupt()
and cpu_exit_maybe_[handle]_exception()...


  reply	other threads:[~2025-08-11 13:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-08 18:58 [PATCH 0/8] accel, cpus: clean up cpu->exit_request Paolo Bonzini
2025-08-08 18:58 ` [PATCH 1/8] accel: use store_release/load_acquire for cross-thread exit_request Paolo Bonzini
2025-08-09 22:41   ` Richard Henderson
2025-08-11 19:31   ` Peter Xu
2025-08-08 18:58 ` [PATCH 2/8] accel/hvf: check exit_request before running the vCPU Paolo Bonzini
2025-08-08 21:28   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-08-09 23:09   ` Richard Henderson
2025-08-11  7:06     ` Paolo Bonzini
2025-08-08 18:59 ` [PATCH 3/8] accel: use atomic accesses for exit_request Paolo Bonzini
2025-08-08 21:04   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-08-09 23:10   ` Richard Henderson
2025-08-11 14:49   ` Alex Bennée
2025-08-11 19:33   ` Peter Xu
2025-08-08 18:59 ` [PATCH 4/8] accel/tcg: introduce tcg_kick_vcpu_thread Paolo Bonzini
2025-08-08 21:15   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-08-09 23:16     ` Richard Henderson
2025-08-09 23:26   ` Richard Henderson
2025-08-11  6:10     ` Paolo Bonzini
2025-08-11  8:33       ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-08-11 13:34         ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé [this message]
2025-08-08 18:59 ` [PATCH 5/8] cpus: remove TCG-ism from cpu_exit() Paolo Bonzini
2025-08-08 21:17   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-08-09 23:17   ` Richard Henderson
2025-08-08 18:59 ` [PATCH 6/8] cpus: properly kick CPUs out of inner execution loop Paolo Bonzini
2025-08-11 12:56   ` Alex Bennée
2025-08-08 18:59 ` [PATCH 7/8] tcg/user: do not set exit_request gratuitously Paolo Bonzini
2025-08-08 21:21   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-08-08 21:45     ` Paolo Bonzini
2025-08-08 18:59 ` [PATCH 8/8] accel: make all calls to qemu_wait_io_event look the same Paolo Bonzini
2025-08-08 21:24   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2025-08-09 23:34   ` Richard Henderson

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