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From: Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy <vsementsov@virtuozzo.com>
To: Alberto Garcia <berto@igalia.com>,
	"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>
Cc: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>,
	"qemu-block@nongnu.org" <qemu-block@nongnu.org>,
	Max Reitz <mreitz@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: qcow2 preallocation and backing files
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2019 15:58:38 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5b57fb5b-4480-2b39-9c60-bbd63f13f1cb@virtuozzo.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <w517e3u8tks.fsf@maestria.local.igalia.com>

20.11.2019 18:18, Alberto Garcia wrote:
> On Wed 20 Nov 2019 01:27:53 PM CET, Vladimir Semeeausntsov-Ogievskiy wrote:
> 
>> 3. Also, the latter way is inconsistent with discard. Discarded
>> regions returns zeroes, not clusters from backing. I think discard and
>> truncate should behave in the same safe zero way.
> 
> But then PREALLOC_MODE_OFF implies that the L2 metadata should be
> preallocated (all clusters should be QCOW2_CLUSTER_ZERO_PLAIN), at least
> when there is a backing file.
> 
> Or maybe we just forbid PREALLOC_MODE_OFF during resize if there is a
> backing file ?
> 

Kevin proposed a fix that alters PREALLOC_MODE_OFF behavior if there is
a backing file, to allocate L2 metadata with ZERO clusters..

I don't think that it's the best thing to do, but it's already done, it works
and seems appropriate for rc3..

I see now, that change PREALLOC_MODE_OFF behavior may break things, first of
all qemu-img create, which creating UNALLOCATED qcow2 by default for years.

Still, I think that it would be safer to always ZERO expanded part of qcow2,
regardless of backing file..

We may add PREALLOC_MODE_ZERO, and use it in mirror, commit, and some other calls
to bdrv_truncate, except for qcow2 image creation of course.

Then, to improve this mode handling in qcow2, to not allocate all L2 tables, we
may add "zero" bit to L1 table entry.

-- 
Best regards,
Vladimir

  reply	other threads:[~2019-11-20 16:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-11-20 12:06 qcow2 preallocation and backing files Alberto Garcia
2019-11-20 12:27 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-11-20 15:18   ` Alberto Garcia
2019-11-20 15:58     ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy [this message]
2019-11-20 16:35       ` Alberto Garcia
2019-11-20 16:46       ` Kevin Wolf
2019-11-20 17:49         ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2019-11-21  8:51       ` Max Reitz

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