From: "Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <philmd@redhat.com>
To: "Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>,
"Balamuruhan S" <bala24@linux.ibm.com>
Cc: Damien Hedde <damien.hedde@greensocs.com>,
maddy@linux.vnet.ibm.com, anju@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, hari@linux.vnet.ibm.com, clg@kaod.org,
pbonzini@redhat.com, david@gibson.dropbear.id.au
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 1/6] utils/python_api: add scripting interface for Qemu with python lib
Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2019 14:45:02 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5b5eb81f-86c7-30c3-16e3-7be969e45fde@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190808104904.GD2534@redhat.com>
On 8/8/19 12:49 PM, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 07, 2019 at 12:44:40PM +0530, Balamuruhan S wrote:
>> Adds scripting interface with python library to call functions in
>> python modules from Qemu that can be used to feed input externally
>> and without recompiling Qemu that can be used for early development,
>> testing and can be extended to abstract some of Qemu code out to a
>> python script to ease maintenance.
>
> I admit the use case is interesting, but this is opening a can of
> worms...
>
> Historically the project has held the view that we do not wish
> to have an mechanism to support loading out of tree code into the
> QEMU process. Much previously talk was around dlopen'd C plugins,
> but dynanically loaded Python plugins are doing the same thing
> at a conceptual level.
>
> We didn't wish to expose internals of QEMU in a plugin API to
> avoid having any kind of API promise across releases.
>
> There was also the question of licensing with plugins opening
> the door for people to extend QEMU with non-free/closed source
> functionality.
>
> While this series only uses the plugin for one fairly obscure
> device, once a python plugin feature is intergrated in QEMU
> there will inevitably be requests to use it in further areas
> of QEMU.
>
> IOW, acceptance of this patch is a significant question for
> the project, and a broader discussion point, than just this
> PPC feature patch series.
Since performance is not an issue, we can use a QMP-PyMMIO bridge.
Most of the functions required are already exposed, Damien completed the
missing ones in his 'FAULT INJECTION FRAMEWORK' series:
https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/qemu-devel/2019-06/msg06230.html
Maybe we simply need a clearer (better documented) QMP 'MMIO' API?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-08-08 12:45 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-08-07 7:14 [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 0/6] Enhancing Qemu MMIO emulation with scripting interface Balamuruhan S
2019-08-07 7:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 1/6] utils/python_api: add scripting interface for Qemu with python lib Balamuruhan S
2019-08-07 10:20 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-08-08 10:10 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-08-08 10:33 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-08-08 10:53 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2019-08-09 8:46 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-08-12 4:53 ` Balamuruhan S
2019-08-08 10:09 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-08-11 6:39 ` Balamuruhan S
2019-08-08 10:49 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2019-08-08 12:45 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé [this message]
2019-08-09 4:39 ` David Gibson
2019-08-12 4:45 ` Balamuruhan S
2019-08-07 7:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 2/6] hw/ppc/pnv_xscom: extend xscom to use python interface Balamuruhan S
2019-08-08 9:04 ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-08-07 7:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 3/6] hw/ppc/pnv_homer: add homer/occ common area emulation for PowerNV Balamuruhan S
2019-08-07 7:54 ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-08-07 10:07 ` Balamuruhan S
2019-08-08 8:32 ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-08-09 4:44 ` David Gibson
2019-08-11 6:34 ` Balamuruhan S
2019-08-07 7:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 4/6] hw/ppc/pnv: initialize and realize homer/occ common area Balamuruhan S
2019-08-07 7:59 ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-08-07 10:12 ` Balamuruhan S
2019-08-08 8:46 ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-08-09 4:45 ` David Gibson
2019-08-07 7:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 5/6] hw/ppc/pnv_xscom: retrieve homer/occ base address from PBA BARs Balamuruhan S
2019-08-07 8:01 ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-08-07 10:22 ` Balamuruhan S
2019-08-09 4:45 ` David Gibson
2019-08-07 7:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 6/6] hw/ppc/pnv_homer: add python interface support for homer/occ common area Balamuruhan S
2019-08-07 10:27 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-08-11 6:05 ` Balamuruhan S
2019-08-09 4:46 ` David Gibson
2019-08-11 6:19 ` Balamuruhan S
2019-08-07 7:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 0/6] Enhancing Qemu MMIO emulation with scripting interface no-reply
2019-08-07 8:15 ` Cédric Le Goater
2019-08-07 10:16 ` Balamuruhan S
2019-08-09 4:49 ` David Gibson
2019-08-12 5:07 ` Balamuruhan S
2019-08-07 8:51 ` no-reply
2019-08-07 9:18 ` no-reply
2019-08-08 10:25 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2019-08-12 6:03 ` Balamuruhan S
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