From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NJAs3-0001lH-RL for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 14:09:44 -0500 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NJAry-0001ev-TZ for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 14:09:43 -0500 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=58361 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NJAry-0001eW-II for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 14:09:38 -0500 Received: from mail-pz0-f188.google.com ([209.85.222.188]:38471) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NJAry-0001iO-6O for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 14:09:38 -0500 Received: by pzk26 with SMTP id 26so804604pzk.4 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 2009 11:09:37 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <1393046876.1549021260539141025.JavaMail.root@zmail05.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com> <4B226BFC.1040606@codemonkey.ws> <20091211204828.464707cf@redhat.com> Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 17:09:37 -0200 Message-ID: <5d6222a80912111109u49e08d7eo987d345e0d218738@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Spice project is now open From: Glauber Costa Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 List-Id: qemu-devel.nongnu.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: Ben Taylor Cc: Yaniv Kamay , Izik Eidus , qemu-devel@nongnu.org >> I think we should allow freedom of choice to the users to decide what >> protcol they want to use, Spice and VNC are all diffrent and were born >> to meet diffrent goals. >> >> I would happy to answer more questions if anyone have > > I think the simple point is that, AFAICS, the spice folks are expecting > the qemu team to integrate their big ugly tarball, instead of doing what > everyone else does, which is forward port everything to current head > and then provide a current set of patches against GIT head. > > Anything else is just a waste of time. The paths both projects are > at are too far apart. > More important than forward porting, is respecting the design decisions a huge community has agreed upon. Of course, when you become part of that community, you can try to shift these designs towards your goals, but trying to force them is just ridiculous. That said, I do believe spice can play a essential role in making us go forward, but the attitude towards it has to change quite a bit. -- Glauber Costa. "Free as in Freedom" http://glommer.net "The less confident you are, the more serious you have to act."