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From: Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy <vsementsov@virtuozzo.com>
To: Max Reitz <mreitz@redhat.com>, qemu-block@nongnu.org
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, armbru@redhat.com, eblake@redhat.com,
	fam@euphon.net, stefanha@redhat.com, kwolf@redhat.com,
	den@openvz.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 14/15] scripts/simplebench: improve ascii table: add difference line
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2020 20:13:36 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5df7fb5f-d551-c9fc-d5a8-dc267599d1b7@virtuozzo.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6b808a3b-735b-45b4-79bf-6e73000de5bb@redhat.com>

25.09.2020 13:24, Max Reitz wrote:
> On 18.09.20 20:19, Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy wrote:
>> Performance improvements / degradations are usually discussed in
>> percentage. Let's make the script calculate it for us.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy <vsementsov@virtuozzo.com>
>> ---
>>   scripts/simplebench/simplebench.py | 46 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++---
>>   1 file changed, 42 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)
>>
>> diff --git a/scripts/simplebench/simplebench.py b/scripts/simplebench/simplebench.py
>> index 56d3a91ea2..0ff05a38b8 100644
>> --- a/scripts/simplebench/simplebench.py
>> +++ b/scripts/simplebench/simplebench.py
> 
> [...]
> 
>> +            for j in range(0, i):
>> +                env_j = results['envs'][j]
>> +                res_j = case_results[env_j['id']]
>> +
>> +                if 'average' not in res_j:
>> +                    # Failed result
>> +                    cell += ' --'
>> +                    continue
>> +
>> +                col_j = chr(ord('A') + j)
>> +                avg_j = res_j['average']
>> +                delta = (res['average'] - avg_j) / avg_j * 100
> 
> I was wondering why you’d subtract, when percentage differences usually
> mean a quotient.  Then I realized that this would usually be written as:
> 
> (res['average'] / avg_j - 1) * 100
> 
>> +                delta_delta = (res['delta'] + res_j['delta']) / avg_j * 100
> 
> Why not use the new format_percent for both cases?

because I want less precision here

> 
>> +                cell += f' {col_j}{round(delta):+}±{round(delta_delta)}%'
> 
> I don’t know what I should think about ±delta_delta.  If I saw “Compared
> to run A, this is +42.1%±2.0%”, I would think that you calculated the
> difference between each run result, and then based on that array
> calculated average and standard deviation.
> 
> Furthermore, I don’t even know what the delta_delta is supposed to tell
> you.  It isn’t even a delta_delta, it’s an average_delta.

not avarage, but sum of errors. And it shows the error for the delta

> 
> The delta_delta would be (res['delta'] / res_j['delta'] - 1) * 100.0.

and this shows nothing.

Assume we have = A = 10+-2 and B = 15+-2

The difference is (15-10)+-(2+2) = 5+-4.
And your formula will give (2/2 - 1) *100 = 0, which is wrong.

Anyway, my code is mess)

> And that might be presented perhaps like “+42.1% Δ± +2.0%” (if delta
> were the SD, “Δx̅=+42.1% Δσ=+2.0%” would also work; although, again, I do
> interpret ± as the SD anyway).
> 

I feel that I'm bad in statistics :( I'll learn a little and make a new version.

-- 
Best regards,
Vladimir


  reply	other threads:[~2020-09-25 17:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-09-18 18:19 [PATCH v6 00/15] preallocate filter Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2020-09-18 18:19 ` [PATCH v6 01/15] block: simplify comment to BDRV_REQ_SERIALISING Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2020-09-28 15:34   ` Alberto Garcia
2020-09-18 18:19 ` [PATCH v6 02/15] block/io.c: drop assertion on double waiting for request serialisation Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2020-09-18 18:19 ` [PATCH v6 03/15] block/io: split out bdrv_find_conflicting_request Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2020-09-18 18:19 ` [PATCH v6 04/15] block/io: bdrv_wait_serialising_requests_locked: drop extra bs arg Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2020-09-18 18:19 ` [PATCH v6 05/15] block: bdrv_mark_request_serialising: split non-waiting function Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2020-09-18 18:19 ` [PATCH v6 06/15] block: introduce BDRV_REQ_NO_WAIT flag Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2020-09-18 18:19 ` [PATCH v6 07/15] block: bdrv_check_perm(): process children anyway Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2020-09-24 14:25   ` Max Reitz
2020-09-24 14:55     ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2020-09-18 18:19 ` [PATCH v6 08/15] block: introduce preallocate filter Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2020-09-24 16:50   ` Max Reitz
2020-09-24 17:36     ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2020-09-18 18:19 ` [PATCH v6 09/15] qemu-io: add preallocate mode parameter for truncate command Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2020-09-24 17:08   ` Max Reitz
2020-09-18 18:19 ` [PATCH v6 10/15] iotests: qemu_io_silent: support --image-opts Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2020-09-25  7:10   ` Max Reitz
2020-09-18 18:19 ` [PATCH v6 11/15] iotests: add 298 to test new preallocate filter driver Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2020-09-25  8:26   ` Max Reitz
2020-09-25  8:49     ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2020-09-25  9:11       ` Max Reitz
2020-09-25 15:11         ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2020-09-25 15:32           ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2020-10-01  7:40             ` Max Reitz
2020-10-01  8:41           ` Thomas Huth
2020-09-18 18:19 ` [PATCH v6 12/15] scripts/simplebench: support iops Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2020-09-25  8:54   ` Max Reitz
2020-09-18 18:19 ` [PATCH v6 13/15] scripts/simplebench: improve view of ascii table Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2020-09-25  9:31   ` Max Reitz
2020-09-25 16:58     ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2020-09-18 18:19 ` [PATCH v6 14/15] scripts/simplebench: improve ascii table: add difference line Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2020-09-25 10:24   ` Max Reitz
2020-09-25 17:13     ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy [this message]
2020-10-01  8:22       ` Max Reitz
2020-09-18 18:19 ` [PATCH v6 15/15] scripts/simplebench: add bench_prealloc.py Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2020-09-25 11:25   ` Max Reitz

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