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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Steven Sistare <steven.sistare@oracle.com>,
	Igor Mammedov <imammedo@redhat.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>,
	Fabiano Rosas <farosas@suse.de>,
	Marcel Apfelbaum <marcel.apfelbaum@gmail.com>,
	Eduardo Habkost <eduardo@habkost.net>,
	Philippe Mathieu-Daude <philmd@linaro.org>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"Daniel P. Berrange" <berrange@redhat.com>,
	Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH V2 01/11] machine: alloc-anon option
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2024 11:10:54 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5ee0d30f-6e0e-4f1a-bfe6-951d7a00b034@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <88945053-6918-4096-ac55-0ef4b946b241@oracle.com>

On 20.07.24 22:28, Steven Sistare wrote:
> On 7/16/2024 5:19 AM, Igor Mammedov wrote:
>> On Sun, 30 Jun 2024 12:40:24 -0700
>> Steve Sistare <steven.sistare@oracle.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Allocate anonymous memory using mmap MAP_ANON or memfd_create depending
>>> on the value of the anon-alloc machine property.  This affects
>>> memory-backend-ram objects, guest RAM created with the global -m option
>>> but without an associated memory-backend object and without the -mem-path
>>> option
>> nowadays, all machines were converted to use memory backend for VM RAM.
>> so -m option implicitly creates memory-backend object,
>> which will be either MEMORY_BACKEND_FILE if -mem-path present
>> or MEMORY_BACKEND_RAM otherwise.
> 
> Yes.  I dropped an an important adjective, "implicit".
> 
>     "guest RAM created with the global -m option but without an explicit associated
>     memory-backend object and without the -mem-path option"
> 
>>> To access the same memory in the old and new QEMU processes, the memory
>>> must be mapped shared.  Therefore, the implementation always sets
>>
>>> RAM_SHARED if alloc-anon=memfd, except for memory-backend-ram, where the
>>> user must explicitly specify the share option.  In lieu of defining a new
>> so statement at the top that memory-backend-ram is affected is not
>> really valid?
> 
> memory-backend-ram is affected by alloc-anon.  But in addition, the user must
> explicitly add the "share" option.  I don't implicitly set share in this case,
> because I would be overriding the user's specification of the memory object's property,
> which would be private if omitted.

Note that memory-backend-memfd uses "shared=on" as default, as using 
"shared=off" is something that shouldn't have ever been allowed. It can 
(and will) result in a double memory consumption.

One reason I also don't quite like this approach :/

-- 
Cheers,

David / dhildenb



  reply	other threads:[~2024-07-22  9:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-06-30 19:40 [PATCH V2 00/11] Live update: cpr-exec Steve Sistare
2024-06-30 19:40 ` [PATCH V2 01/11] machine: alloc-anon option Steve Sistare
2024-07-15 17:52   ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-07-16  9:19   ` Igor Mammedov
2024-07-17 19:24     ` Peter Xu
2024-07-18 15:43       ` Steven Sistare
2024-07-18 16:22         ` Peter Xu
2024-07-20 20:35       ` Steven Sistare
2024-08-04 16:20         ` Peter Xu
2024-07-20 20:28     ` Steven Sistare
2024-07-22  9:10       ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2024-07-29 12:29       ` Igor Mammedov
2024-08-08 18:32         ` Steven Sistare
2024-08-12 18:37           ` Steven Sistare
2024-08-13 15:35             ` Peter Xu
2024-08-13 17:00               ` Alex Williamson
2024-08-13 18:45                 ` Peter Xu
2024-08-13 18:56                   ` Steven Sistare
2024-08-13 18:46                 ` Steven Sistare
2024-08-13 18:49                   ` Steven Sistare
2024-08-13 17:34               ` Steven Sistare
2024-08-13 19:02                 ` Peter Xu
2024-06-30 19:40 ` [PATCH V2 02/11] migration: cpr-state Steve Sistare
2024-07-17 18:39   ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-07-19 15:03   ` Peter Xu
2024-07-20 19:53     ` Steven Sistare
2024-06-30 19:40 ` [PATCH V2 03/11] migration: save cpr mode Steve Sistare
2024-07-17 18:39   ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-07-18 15:47     ` Steven Sistare
2024-06-30 19:40 ` [PATCH V2 04/11] migration: stop vm earlier for cpr Steve Sistare
2024-07-17 18:59   ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-07-20 20:00     ` Steven Sistare
2024-07-22 13:42       ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-08-06 20:52         ` Steven Sistare
2024-06-30 19:40 ` [PATCH V2 05/11] physmem: preserve ram blocks " Steve Sistare
2024-06-30 19:40 ` [PATCH V2 06/11] migration: fix mismatched GPAs during cpr Steve Sistare
2024-07-19 16:28   ` Peter Xu
2024-07-20 21:28     ` Steven Sistare
2024-08-07 21:04     ` Steven Sistare
2024-08-13 20:43       ` Peter Xu
2024-08-15 20:54         ` Steven Sistare
2024-08-16 14:43           ` Peter Xu
2024-08-16 17:10             ` Steven Sistare
2024-08-21 16:57               ` Peter Xu
2024-06-30 19:40 ` [PATCH V2 07/11] oslib: qemu_clear_cloexec Steve Sistare
2024-06-30 19:40 ` [PATCH V2 08/11] vl: helper to request exec Steve Sistare
2024-06-30 19:40 ` [PATCH V2 09/11] migration: cpr-exec-command parameter Steve Sistare
2024-06-30 19:40 ` [PATCH V2 10/11] migration: cpr-exec save and load Steve Sistare
2024-06-30 19:40 ` [PATCH V2 11/11] migration: cpr-exec mode Steve Sistare
2024-07-18 15:56 ` [PATCH V2 00/11] Live update: cpr-exec Peter Xu
2024-07-20 21:26   ` Steven Sistare
2024-08-04 16:10     ` Peter Xu
2024-08-07 19:47       ` Steven Sistare
2024-08-13 20:12         ` Peter Xu
2024-08-20 16:28           ` [PATCH V2 00/11] Live update: cpr-exec (reconnections) Steven Sistare
2024-07-22  8:59   ` [PATCH V2 00/11] Live update: cpr-exec David Hildenbrand
2024-08-04 15:43     ` Peter Xu
2024-08-05  9:52       ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-05 10:06         ` David Hildenbrand
2024-08-05 10:01   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-08-06 20:56     ` Steven Sistare
2024-08-13 19:46       ` Peter Xu
2024-08-15 20:55         ` Steven Sistare
2024-08-16 15:06           ` Peter Xu
2024-08-16 15:16             ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-08-16 15:19               ` Steven Sistare
2024-08-16 15:34               ` Peter Xu
2024-08-16 16:00                 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-08-16 16:17                   ` Peter Xu
2024-08-16 16:28                     ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-08-16 17:09                     ` Steven Sistare
2024-08-21 18:34                       ` Peter Xu
2024-09-04 20:58                         ` Steven Sistare
2024-09-04 22:23                           ` Peter Xu
2024-09-05  9:49                             ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-09-05  9:43                           ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2024-09-05  9:30                       ` Daniel P. Berrangé

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