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[109.43.176.151]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id qq11-20020a17090720cb00b008c6c47f59c1sm3578054ejb.48.2023.03.16.01.36.23 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 16 Mar 2023 01:36:23 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5fbcb311-228f-2590-e5c5-21e7f043c1cf@redhat.com> Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2023 09:36:22 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/91.13.0 Subject: Re: dropping 32-bit host support Content-Language: en-US To: Liviu Ionescu , =?UTF-8?Q?Philippe_Mathieu-Daud=c3=a9?= Cc: Andrew Randrianasulu , qemu-discuss@nongnu.org, QEMU Developers References: <3DD8295F-4BE0-4262-8C68-4A85A56D63C7@livius.net> <35022ff8-bf4b-1f52-73f9-db25c776cec1@linaro.org> <5C828A13-12A1-42D5-9DC1-9DB232294798@livius.net> From: Thomas Huth In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received-SPF: pass client-ip=170.10.133.124; envelope-from=thuth@redhat.com; helo=us-smtp-delivery-124.mimecast.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, NICE_REPLY_A=-0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: qemu-devel@nongnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: qemu-devel-bounces+qemu-devel=archiver.kernel.org@nongnu.org Sender: qemu-devel-bounces+qemu-devel=archiver.kernel.org@nongnu.org On 16/03/2023 09.07, Liviu Ionescu wrote: > > >> On 16 Mar 2023, at 09:57, Liviu Ionescu wrote: >> >> I'm not targeting RPi2; there are a lot of RPi4 with less than 8GB RAM (most of them, actually), and even more RPi3, with even less RAM), and people prefer to continue using the 32-bit OS on them, which works quite fine; > > Like it or not, as long as Raspberry does not explicitly deprecate the 32-bit OS, people will continue to use it, and for good reasons. > > As of now, it is even 'Our recommended operating system for most users.': I'd say "most users" != "the people who want to run QEMU here". If you really really want to run QEMU on such a system, you can also install a 64-bit OS there. Please also consider that we're only talking about marking the 32-bit arm hosts as deprecated in our docs right now. It will take another year (or maybe more) until the deprecation will turn into a real unsupported state. I assume by that point in time, more and more RPi users will have switched to a 64-bit OS instead. Thomas