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From: Pierre Morel <pmorel@linux.ibm.com>
To: Thomas Huth <thuth@redhat.com>, qemu-s390x@nongnu.org
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, borntraeger@de.ibm.com,
	pasic@linux.ibm.com, richard.henderson@linaro.org,
	david@redhat.com, cohuck@redhat.com, mst@redhat.com,
	pbonzini@redhat.com, kvm@vger.kernel.org, ehabkost@redhat.com,
	marcel.apfelbaum@gmail.com, eblake@redhat.com, armbru@redhat.com,
	seiden@linux.ibm.com, nrb@linux.ibm.com, scgl@linux.ibm.com,
	frankja@linux.ibm.com, berrange@redhat.com, clg@kaod.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v13 0/7] s390x: CPU Topology
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2022 09:51:03 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <60f006f4-d29e-320a-d656-600b2fd4a11a@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8c0777d2-7b70-51ce-e64a-6aff5bdea8ae@redhat.com>



On 12/9/22 14:32, Thomas Huth wrote:
> On 08/12/2022 10.44, Pierre Morel wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Implementation discussions
>> ==========================
>>
>> CPU models
>> ----------
>>
>> Since the S390_FEAT_CONFIGURATION_TOPOLOGY is already in the CPU model
>> for old QEMU we could not activate it as usual from KVM but needed
>> a KVM capability: KVM_CAP_S390_CPU_TOPOLOGY.
>> Checking and enabling this capability enables
>> S390_FEAT_CONFIGURATION_TOPOLOGY.
>>
>> Migration
>> ---------
>>
>> Once the S390_FEAT_CONFIGURATION_TOPOLOGY is enabled in the source
>> host the STFL(11) is provided to the guest.
>> Since the feature is already in the CPU model of older QEMU,
>> a migration from a new QEMU enabling the topology to an old QEMU
>> will keep STFL(11) enabled making the guest get an exception for
>> illegal operation as soon as it uses the PTF instruction.
> 
> I now thought that it is not possible to enable "ctop" on older QEMUs 
> since the don't enable the KVM capability? ... or is it still somehow 
> possible? What did I miss?
> 
>   Thomas

Enabling ctop with ctop=on on old QEMU is not possible, this is right.
But, if STFL(11) is enable in the source KVM by a new QEMU, I can see 
that even with -ctop=off the STFL(11) is migrated to the destination.

It is highly possible that I missed something in the cpu model.

A solution proposed by Cedric was to add a new machine but we did not 
want this because we decided that we do not want to wait for a new machine.

Another solution could be to have a we can have a new CPU feature 
overruling ctop like S390_FEAT_CPU_TOPOLOGY in the last series version 12.
I am not sure it must be linked with the creation of a new machine.

The solution here in this series is to add a VMState which will block 
the migration with older QEMU if the topology is activated with ctop on 
a new QEMU.

Regards,
Pierre

> 
> 
>> A VMState keeping track of the S390_FEAT_CONFIGURATION_TOPOLOGY
>> allows to forbid the migration in such a case.
>>
>> Note that the VMState will be used to hold information on the
>> topology once we implement topology change for a running guest.
> 

-- 
Pierre Morel
IBM Lab Boeblingen


  reply	other threads:[~2022-12-12  8:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-12-08  9:44 [PATCH v13 0/7] s390x: CPU Topology Pierre Morel
2022-12-08  9:44 ` [PATCH v13 1/7] s390x/cpu topology: Creating CPU topology device Pierre Morel
2022-12-09 13:50   ` Thomas Huth
2022-12-12  8:52     ` Pierre Morel
2022-12-09 14:51   ` Cédric Le Goater
2022-12-08  9:44 ` [PATCH v13 2/7] s390x/cpu topology: reporting the CPU topology to the guest Pierre Morel
2022-12-09 15:43   ` Cédric Le Goater
2022-12-12  9:21     ` Pierre Morel
2022-12-08  9:44 ` [PATCH v13 3/7] s390x/cpu_topology: resetting the Topology-Change-Report Pierre Morel
2022-12-08  9:44 ` [PATCH v13 4/7] s390x/cpu_topology: CPU topology migration Pierre Morel
2022-12-09 14:56   ` Cédric Le Goater
2022-12-12  9:14     ` Pierre Morel
2022-12-11 14:55   ` Pierre Morel
2022-12-13 13:26   ` Christian Borntraeger
2022-12-13 17:40     ` Pierre Morel
2022-12-08  9:44 ` [PATCH v13 5/7] s390x/cpu_topology: interception of PTF instruction Pierre Morel
2022-12-08  9:44 ` [PATCH v13 6/7] s390x/cpu_topology: activating CPU topology Pierre Morel
2022-12-08  9:44 ` [PATCH v13 7/7] docs/s390x: document s390x cpu topology Pierre Morel
2022-12-09 13:32 ` [PATCH v13 0/7] s390x: CPU Topology Thomas Huth
2022-12-12  8:51   ` Pierre Morel [this message]
2022-12-12  9:07     ` Thomas Huth
2022-12-12 10:10       ` Pierre Morel
2022-12-12 10:17         ` Thomas Huth
2022-12-13 13:41           ` Christian Borntraeger
2022-12-13 13:57             ` Janis Schoetterl-Glausch
2022-12-13 14:00               ` Christian Borntraeger
2022-12-13 17:24             ` Pierre Morel
2022-12-14 10:39               ` Thomas Huth
2022-12-09 14:45 ` Cédric Le Goater
2022-12-12 10:01   ` Pierre Morel
2022-12-13 13:50     ` Christian Borntraeger
2022-12-13 15:12       ` Christian Borntraeger
2022-12-13 15:31         ` Janis Schoetterl-Glausch
2022-12-13 17:27           ` Pierre Morel

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