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From: "François Revol" <revol@free.fr>
To: "Daniel P. Berrange" <berrange@redhat.com>, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] opengl rendering in the sdl window
Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2008 14:38:56 +0200 CEST	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6212707131-BeMail@laptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080908110038.GG2315@redhat.com>

> On Mon, Sep 08, 2008 at 11:53:57AM +0100, Stefano Stabellini wrote:
> > Daniel P. Berrange wrote:
> >
> > > On Mon, Sep 08, 2008 at 11:30:09AM +0100, Stefano Stabellini
> > > wrote:
> > >> I completely agree with Avi: Opengl has been around since 1992,
> > > > and now
> > >> you tell me that it is better not to use it because it breaks
> > > > Compiz?!
> > >> To say the least it would be a bad long term engineering
> > > > decision.
> > >
> > > It would be a bad decision *if* OpenGL were the only technical
> > > solution
> > > to the problem. There are a variety of possible solutions with
> > > various
> > > pluses & minuses. If it is possible to do an implementation which
> > > uses
> > > hardware acceleration for scaling to get the same level of
> > > performance
> > > as the OpenGL proposal, it is good sense to evaluate it. Blindly
> > > going
> > > for OpenGL when it has known problems without evaluating
> > > alternatives
> > > would be the bad engineering  decision.
> >
> >
> > You are right that we have a variety of possible solution each one
> > with
> > its own pros and cons.
> > I think removing SDL(+Opengl) for Gtk and Cairo is not a good idea
> > *but*
> > we could add another Gtk based fronted.
>
> Sorry, I wasn't being entirely clear in my suggestion. Cairo itself
> is not
> tied to any toolkit - its dependancy is on libX11 / the RENDER
> extension.
> So, use of Cairo is rather tangential to question of GTK vs SDL - you
> can
> use Cairo with either of them. That said, it may turn out that SDL
> does
> not expose enough of its X11 internals to allow an efficient use of
> Cairo.
> It would need some experimentation to determine for sure, because the
> docs
> aren't entirely clear on this question.

It would definitely make things much less portable...
Cairo itself is quite a beast to port I heard... (not everyone uses
X11...)

François.

  reply	other threads:[~2008-09-08 12:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-08-29 15:22 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] opengl rendering in the sdl window Stefano Stabellini
2008-09-02 16:53 ` Ian Jackson
2008-09-04  3:00 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-09-04  7:41   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-09-04  9:42   ` Daniel P. Berrange
2008-09-04 10:06     ` Andreas Färber
2008-09-04 10:20       ` Daniel P. Berrange
2008-09-05 16:42         ` Andreas Färber
2008-09-07  7:51         ` Avi Kivity
2008-09-07  3:07     ` Anthony Liguori
2008-09-07 16:31       ` Daniel P. Berrange
2008-09-08  0:12         ` Anthony Liguori
2008-09-04 10:06   ` Stefano Stabellini
2008-09-05 12:02     ` Jamie Lokier
2008-09-05 12:11       ` Samuel Thibault
2008-09-06 23:27         ` Jamie Lokier
2008-09-07 14:22           ` Samuel Thibault
2008-09-07 14:36             ` Paul Brook
2008-09-07 14:42               ` Samuel Thibault
2008-09-07 15:03                 ` Paul Brook
2008-09-07 15:12                   ` Samuel Thibault
2008-09-07 15:35                     ` Paul Brook
2008-09-07 15:41                       ` Samuel Thibault
2008-09-07 15:57                         ` Paul Brook
2008-09-08  0:08                         ` Anthony Liguori
2008-09-08  0:21                           ` Samuel Thibault
2008-09-08  1:18               ` Jamie Lokier
2008-09-08 10:38                 ` Stefano Stabellini
2008-09-08 13:21                   ` Jamie Lokier
2008-09-05 16:44       ` Stefano Stabellini
2008-09-05 16:55         ` Daniel P. Berrange
2008-09-05 17:13           ` Stefano Stabellini
2008-09-07  3:21             ` Anthony Liguori
2008-09-08 10:48               ` Stefano Stabellini
2008-09-08 13:16               ` Jamie Lokier
2008-09-08 13:51                 ` Stefano Stabellini
2008-09-08 13:41               ` Jamie Lokier
2008-09-08 13:48                 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2008-09-08 14:56                   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-09-08 15:08                     ` Jamie Lokier
2008-09-08 15:35                       ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-09-08 15:39                         ` Jamie Lokier
2008-09-08 16:23                           ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-09-08 16:47                             ` Anthony Liguori
2008-09-08 19:15                               ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-09-08 19:43                             ` Jamie Lokier
2008-09-08 15:47                       ` Daniel P. Berrange
2008-09-08 16:05                         ` Anthony Liguori
2008-09-08 17:08                           ` Mike Kronenberg
2008-09-08 19:21                             ` Gerd Hoffmann
2008-09-08 21:06                               ` Mike Kronenberg
2008-09-08 19:32                           ` Jamie Lokier
2008-09-08 19:48                           ` Jamie Lokier
2008-09-08 19:57                             ` Anthony Liguori
2008-09-08 20:11                               ` Jamie Lokier
2008-09-08 23:18                         ` Daniel P. Berrange
2008-09-09  0:10                           ` Jamie Lokier
2008-09-09  2:45                             ` Anthony Liguori
2008-09-09  4:17                               ` Jamie Lokier
2008-09-08 14:22                 ` Anthony Liguori
2008-09-07  7:48           ` Avi Kivity
2008-09-07 11:57             ` Daniel P. Berrange
2008-09-07 13:12               ` Avi Kivity
2008-09-08 10:30                 ` Stefano Stabellini
2008-09-08 10:35                   ` Daniel P. Berrange
2008-09-08 10:53                     ` Stefano Stabellini
2008-09-08 11:00                       ` Daniel P. Berrange
2008-09-08 12:38                         ` François Revol [this message]
2008-09-08 13:05                           ` Jamie Lokier
2008-09-08 13:08                           ` Anthony Liguori
2008-09-08 13:44                             ` François Revol
2008-09-05 18:11         ` malc
2008-09-04 10:14   ` Stefano Stabellini
2008-09-07  3:09     ` Anthony Liguori
2008-09-04 10:21   ` Andreas Färber

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