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From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: "Peter Maydell" <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
	"Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>
Cc: "Kevin Wolf" <kwolf@redhat.com>, "Greg Kurz" <groug@kaod.org>,
	"Wainer dos Santos Moschetta" <wainersm@redhat.com>,
	"QEMU Developers" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	"Stefan Hajnoczi" <stefanha@redhat.com>,
	"Max Reitz" <mreitz@redhat.com>,
	"Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <philmd@redhat.com>,
	"Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC] Move tools sources to the tools directory (was Re: [PATCH v2] MAINTAINERS: Fix the location of tools manuals)
Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2021 16:02:01 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6339c78f-e77c-85e7-8e3f-6c2c514f3206@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFEAcA_=ANGKcy7QNfEdxUft9qGyCHttHo9hfvjQHC_ZfYeo1g@mail.gmail.com>

On 04/02/21 15:50, Peter Maydell wrote:
> On Thu, 4 Feb 2021 at 14:47, Daniel P. Berrangé <berrange@redhat.com> wrote:
>> The distinction of contrib/ vs tools/ is supposed to be more a
>> reflection on the quality of the program.
>>
>> contrib/ should be considered demo-ware, no back compat guaranteed,
>> may or may not work, no testing guaranteed, no man pages.
> 
> On this definition, why do we have any of it in our source tree?
> Interesting but unmaintained side things can live quite happily
> elsewhere (other peoples' git forks, blog posts, whatever).
> If we care about a bit of code enough to keep it in our source
> tree we ought to care about it enough to properly document
> and test it and give it a suitable place to live.

That's indeed what happened with libvhost-user; it has graduated to a 
separate project since it is okay for use in other (production-ready) 
vhost-user backends.

Most of the software in contrib/ is essentially a reference 
implementations.  They are "perfect" for that task, but not meant to 
grow more features or to be used in production (compare vhost-user-blk 
with qemu-storage-daemon for example).

The other four can be classified as follows:

- elf2dmp and rdmacm-mux should be in tools/, probably it's in contrib/ 
because nobody uses it and there's no tests so it might bitrot.

- systemd is just a couple files meant for distros to pick up, possibly 
with customizations.  gitdm is just for people who want to get QEMU 
development stats, so I suppose these two are in the same group as well.

Paolo



  reply	other threads:[~2021-02-04 15:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-02-04 13:54 [PATCH v2] MAINTAINERS: Fix the location of tools manuals Wainer dos Santos Moschetta
2021-02-04 13:59 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2021-02-04 14:22   ` [RFC] Move tools sources to the tools directory (was Re: [PATCH v2] MAINTAINERS: Fix the location of tools manuals) Wainer dos Santos Moschetta
2021-02-04 14:31     ` Peter Maydell
2021-02-04 14:40       ` Kevin Wolf
2021-02-04 14:47         ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-02-04 14:50           ` Peter Maydell
2021-02-04 15:02             ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2021-02-04 15:06               ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-02-04 17:37                 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2021-02-04 17:39                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-02-04 15:04             ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-02-04 14:57           ` Kevin Wolf
2021-02-04 14:47         ` Peter Maydell
2021-02-04 14:40     ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-02-04 17:42       ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2021-02-04 17:55         ` Paolo Bonzini
2021-02-04 18:24     ` Eric Blake
2021-02-04 20:57     ` John Snow
2021-03-09 17:41   ` [PATCH v2] MAINTAINERS: Fix the location of tools manuals Wainer dos Santos Moschetta
2021-03-09 19:48     ` Thomas Huth
2021-03-09 20:44       ` Laurent Vivier
2021-03-09 22:54       ` Greg Kurz

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