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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
Cc: Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>,
	"Michael S . Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	Michael Roth <mdroth@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Igor Mammedov <imammedo@redhat.com>,
	"Dr . David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>,
	David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 1/7] qapi: use qemu_strtoi64() in parse_str
Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2018 10:19:52 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <64720ade-c69d-40a4-5359-2132711c01cd@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87tvkv2r2b.fsf@dusky.pond.sub.org>

On 05.11.18 21:43, Markus Armbruster wrote:
> David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com> writes:
> 
>> On 05.11.18 16:37, Markus Armbruster wrote:
>>> David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com> writes:
>>>
>>>> On 31.10.18 18:55, Markus Armbruster wrote:
>>>>> David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com> writes:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 31.10.18 15:40, Markus Armbruster wrote:
>>>>>>> David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com> writes:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The qemu api claims to be easier to use, and the resulting code seems to
>>>>>>>> agree.
>>>>> [...]
>>>>>>>> @@ -60,9 +61,7 @@ static int parse_str(StringInputVisitor *siv, const char *name, Error **errp)
>>>>>>>>      }
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>      do {
>>>>>>>> -        errno = 0;
>>>>>>>> -        start = strtoll(str, &endptr, 0);
>>>>>>>> -        if (errno == 0 && endptr > str) {
>>>>>>>> +        if (!qemu_strtoi64(str, &endptr, 0, &start)) {
>>>>>>>>              if (*endptr == '\0') {
>>>>>>>>                  cur = g_malloc0(sizeof(*cur));
>>>>>>>>                  range_set_bounds(cur, start, start);
>>>>>>>> @@ -71,11 +70,7 @@ static int parse_str(StringInputVisitor *siv, const char *name, Error **errp)
>>>>>>>>                  str = NULL;
>>>>>>>>              } else if (*endptr == '-') {
>>>>>>>>                  str = endptr + 1;
>>>>>>>> -                errno = 0;
>>>>>>>> -                end = strtoll(str, &endptr, 0);
>>>>>>>> -                if (errno == 0 && endptr > str && start <= end &&
>>>>>>>> -                    (start > INT64_MAX - 65536 ||
>>>>>>>> -                     end < start + 65536)) {
>>>>>>>> +                if (!qemu_strtoi64(str, &endptr, 0, &end) && start < end) {
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You deleted (start > INT64_MAX - 65536 || end < start + 65536).  Can you
>>>>>>> explain that to me?  I'm feeling particularly dense today...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> qemu_strtoi64 performs all different kinds of error handling completely
>>>>>> internally. This old code here was an attempt to filter out -EWHATEVER
>>>>>> from the response. No longer needed as errors and the actual value are
>>>>>> reported via different ways.
>>>>>
>>>>> I understand why errno == 0 && endptr > str go away.  They also do in
>>>>> the previous hunk.
>>>>>
>>>>> The deletion of (start > INT64_MAX - 65536 || end < start + 65536) is
>>>>> unobvious.  What does it do before the patch?
>>>>>
>>>>> The condition goes back to commit 659268ffbff, which predates my watch
>>>>> as maintainer.  Its commit message is of no particular help.  Its code
>>>>> is... allright, the less I say about that, the better.
>>>>>
>>>>> We're parsing a range here.  We already parsed its lower bound into
>>>>> @start (and guarded against errors), and its upper bound into @end (and
>>>>> guarded against errors).
>>>>>
>>>>> If the condition you delete is false, we goto error.  So the condition
>>>>> is about range validity.  I figure it's an attempt to require valid
>>>>> ranges to be no "wider" than 65535.  The second part end < start + 65536
>>>>> checks exactly that, except shit happens when start + 65536 overflows.
>>>>> The first part attempts to guard against that, but
>>>>>
>>>>> (1) INT64_MAX is *wrong*, because we compute in long long, and
>>>>>
>>>>> (2) it rejects even small ranges like INT64_MAX - 2 .. INT64_MAX - 1.
>>>>>
>>>>> WTF?!?
>>>>>
>>>>> Unless I'm mistaken, the condition is not about handling any of the
>>>>> errors that qemu_strtoi64() handles for us.
>>>>>
>>>>> The easiest way for you out of this morass is probably to keep the
>>>>> condition exactly as it was, then use the "my patch doesn't make things
>>>>> any worse" get-out-of-jail-free card.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Looking at the code in qapi/string-output-visitor.c related to range and
>>>> list handling I feel like using the get-out-of-jail-free card to get out
>>>> of qapi code now :) Too much magic in that code and too little time for
>>>> me to understand it all.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for your time and review anyway. My time is better invested in
>>>> other parts of QEMU. I will drop both patches from this series.
>>>
>>> Understand.
>>>
>>> When I first looked at the ranges stuff in the string input visitor, I
>>> felt the urge to clean it up, then sat on my hands until it passed.
>>>
>>> The rest is reasonable once you understand how it works.  The learning
>>> curve is less than pleasant, though.
>>>
>>
>> Maybe I'll pick this up again when I have more time to invest.
>>
>> The general concept
>>
>> 1. of having an input visitor that is able to parse different types
>> (expected by e.g. a property) sounds sane to me.
>>
>> 2. of having a list of *something*, assuming it is int64_t, and assuming
>> it is to be parsed into a list of ranges sounds completely broken to me.
> 
> Starting point: the string visitors can only do scalars.  We have a need
> for lists of integers (see below).  The general solution would be
> generalizing these visitors to lists (and maybe objects while we're at
> it).  YAGNI.  So we put in a quick hack that can do just lists of
> integers.
> 
> Except applying YAGNI to stable interfaces is *bonkers*.
> 
>> I was not even able to find an example QEMU comand line for 2. Is this
>> maybe some very old code that nobody actually uses anymore? (who uses
>> list of ranges?)
> 
> The one I remember offhand is -numa node,cpus=..., but that one's
> actually parsed with the options visitor.  Which is even hairier, but at
> least competently coded.
> 
> To find uses, we need to follow the uses of the string visitors.
> 
> Of the callers of string_input_visitor_new(),
> object_property_get_uint16List() is the only one that deals with lists.
> It's used by query_memdev() for property host-nodes.
> 
> The callers of string_output_visitor_new() lead to MigrationInfo member
> postcopy-vcpu-blocktime, and Memdev member host-nodes again.
> 
> Searching the QAPI schema for lists of integers coughs up a few more
> candidates: NumaNodeOptions member cpus (covered above), RxFilterInfo
> member vlan-table (unrelated, as far as I can tell), RockerOfDpaGroup
> (likewise), block latency histogram stuff (likewise).
> 

As Eric pointed out, tests/test-string-input-visitor.c actually tests
for range support in test_visitor_in_intList.

I might be completely wrong, but actually the string input visitor
should not pre-parse stuff into a list of ranges, but instead parse on
request (parse_type_...) and advance in the logical list on "next_list".
And we should parse ranges *only* if we are expecting a list. Because a
range is simply a short variant of a list. A straight parse_type_uint64
should bail out if we haven't started a list.

I guess I am starting to understand how this magic is supposed to work.
Always parsing and processing one list token at a time
("size"/"uint64_t" or "range of such") should be the way to go. And if
nobody requested to parse a list (start_list()), also ranges should not
be allowed. This pre-parsing of the whole list and unconditional use of
ranges should go.

Ranges are still ugly but needed as far as I can understand (as a
shortcut for lengthy lists).

Am I on the right track?

-- 

Thanks,

David / dhildenb

  reply	other threads:[~2018-11-06  9:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-10-23 15:22 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 0/7] qapi/range/memory-device: fixes and cleanups David Hildenbrand
2018-10-23 15:23 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 1/7] qapi: use qemu_strtoi64() in parse_str David Hildenbrand
2018-10-25 14:37   ` David Gibson
2018-10-31 14:40   ` Markus Armbruster
2018-10-31 16:47     ` David Hildenbrand
2018-10-31 17:55       ` Markus Armbruster
2018-10-31 18:01         ` David Hildenbrand
2018-11-05 15:37           ` Markus Armbruster
2018-11-05 15:53             ` David Hildenbrand
2018-11-05 16:48               ` Eric Blake
2018-11-06  9:20                 ` David Hildenbrand
2018-11-05 20:43               ` Markus Armbruster
2018-11-06  9:19                 ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2018-11-07 15:29                   ` Markus Armbruster
2018-11-07 20:02                     ` David Hildenbrand
2018-11-08  8:39                       ` Markus Armbruster
2018-11-08  8:54                         ` David Hildenbrand
2018-11-08  9:13                           ` Markus Armbruster
2018-11-08 13:05                             ` David Hildenbrand
2018-11-08 14:36                               ` Markus Armbruster
2018-11-08 14:46                                 ` David Hildenbrand
2018-11-08 14:42                               ` Eric Blake
2018-11-08 14:49                                 ` David Hildenbrand
2018-10-23 15:23 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 2/7] qapi: correctly parse uint64_t values from strings David Hildenbrand
2018-10-25 14:41   ` David Gibson
2018-10-26 12:48     ` David Hildenbrand
2018-10-31 14:32   ` Markus Armbruster
2018-10-31 14:44     ` Markus Armbruster
2018-10-31 17:19       ` David Hildenbrand
2018-10-31 17:18     ` David Hildenbrand
2018-11-04  3:27       ` David Gibson
2018-10-23 15:23 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 3/7] range: pass const pointer where possible David Hildenbrand
2018-10-25 14:41   ` David Gibson
2018-10-23 15:23 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 4/7] range: add some more functions David Hildenbrand
2018-11-01 10:00   ` Igor Mammedov
2018-11-01 10:29     ` David Hildenbrand
2018-11-01 11:05       ` Igor Mammedov
2018-11-05 10:30         ` David Hildenbrand
2018-10-23 15:23 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 5/7] memory-device: use QEMU_IS_ALIGNED David Hildenbrand
2018-10-25 14:44   ` David Gibson
2018-10-23 15:23 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 6/7] memory-device: avoid overflows on very huge devices David Hildenbrand
2018-10-25 14:44   ` David Gibson
2018-10-25 14:45   ` Igor Mammedov
2018-10-23 15:23 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 7/7] memory-device: rewrite address assignment using ranges David Hildenbrand
2018-11-12 14:07   ` David Hildenbrand
2018-11-13 12:26   ` Igor Mammedov
2018-11-13 12:41     ` David Hildenbrand
2018-11-13 13:01   ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4] " David Hildenbrand
2018-10-31 10:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 0/7] qapi/range/memory-device: fixes and cleanups David Hildenbrand
2018-10-31 19:43   ` Eduardo Habkost

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