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[109.43.179.28]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id s10-20020a5d510a000000b0031971ab70c9sm4208989wrt.73.2023.09.15.04.24.11 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 15 Sep 2023 04:24:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <665c03fe-37e7-4e2c-666d-156cf70e0f70@redhat.com> Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2023 13:24:10 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.13.0 Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/9] tests: update Debian images to Bookworm Content-Language: en-US To: =?UTF-8?Q?Philippe_Mathieu-Daud=c3=a9?= , =?UTF-8?Q?Daniel_P=2e_Berrang=c3=a9?= Cc: =?UTF-8?Q?Alex_Benn=c3=a9e?= , qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Michael Tokarev , Cleber Rosa , Joel Stanley , Wainer dos Santos Moschetta , Beraldo Leal , Richard Henderson , Pavel Dovgalyuk , qemu-arm@nongnu.org, Jiaxun Yang , John Snow , Mark Cave-Ayland , Peter Maydell , Laurent Vivier , Aurelien Jarno , =?UTF-8?Q?Marc-Andr=c3=a9_Lureau?= , Paolo Bonzini , Markus Armbruster References: <20230914155422.426639-1-alex.bennee@linaro.org> <20230914155422.426639-2-alex.bennee@linaro.org> <30ac04ad-eb02-90ad-57ff-089538413602@linaro.org> <242dc7bd-f0c4-d58c-fc6a-f3ddc0168bf2@linaro.org> From: Thomas Huth In-Reply-To: <242dc7bd-f0c4-d58c-fc6a-f3ddc0168bf2@linaro.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received-SPF: pass client-ip=170.10.133.124; envelope-from=thuth@redhat.com; helo=us-smtp-delivery-124.mimecast.com X-Spam_score_int: -35 X-Spam_score: -3.6 X-Spam_bar: --- X-Spam_report: (-3.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, NICE_REPLY_A=-1.473, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: qemu-devel@nongnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: qemu-devel-bounces+qemu-devel=archiver.kernel.org@nongnu.org Sender: qemu-devel-bounces+qemu-devel=archiver.kernel.org@nongnu.org On 15/09/2023 12.53, Philippe Mathieu-Daudé wrote: > On 15/9/23 11:24, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: >> On Fri, Sep 15, 2023 at 11:14:29AM +0200, Philippe Mathieu-Daudé wrote: >>> On 14/9/23 17:54, Alex Bennée wrote: >>>> Bookworm has been out a while now. Time to update our containers to >>>> the current stable. This requires the latest lcitool repo so update >>>> the sub-module too. >>>> >>>> For some reason the MIPs containers won't build so skip those for now. >>> >>> Debian removed mipsel: >>> https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2023/09/msg00000.html >>> https://lists.debian.org/debian-release/2019/08/msg00582.html ... >> >> Wwith our general aim to support latest release, plus the previous >> release (capped to a maximum of 2 years), we can still consider >> mipsel supportable in QEMU CI by sticking with oldstable (Bullseye) >> for the mipsel containers. >> >> Once Debian 13 comes out, however, we'll be discarding Bullseye >> from CI and so we'll be unable to do CI for mipsel. At the very >> least this means we'll consider mipsel to be downgraded in terms >> of supportability when that happens. We might then consider >> explicitly dropping it as a buld target entirely, as the writing >> is on the wall for 32-bit OS platforms in general... > > I'm fine with dropping system emulation on 32-bit hosts, but a bit > reluctant to drop user emulation there. Anyhow I agree with our > distrib releases support rules, so the mipsel buildsys part is > effectively condemned. Could you maybe send a patch for docs/about/deprecated.rst to make this clear for the users, too? Thanks, Thomas