From: Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy <vsementsov@virtuozzo.com>
To: Eric Blake <eblake@redhat.com>, Nir Soffer <nirsof@gmail.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Cc: Max Reitz <mreitz@redhat.com>,
qemu-block@nongnu.org, Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>,
Nir Soffer <nsoffer@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] nbd: server: Report holes for raw images
Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2021 21:50:54 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <6a714e21-0da5-7eb1-1350-277a25e23be4@virtuozzo.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <81464e3d-c0ee-ac12-c43b-d0f7180db482@redhat.com>
19.02.2021 19:58, Eric Blake wrote:
> On 2/19/21 10:42 AM, Eric Blake wrote:
>
>>> To me, data=false looks compatible with NBD_STATE_HOLE. From user point
>>> of view, getting same results from qemu-nbd and qemu-img is more
>>> important than being more correct about allocation status.
>>
>> More to the point, here is our inconsistency:
>>
>> In nbd/server.c, we turn !BDRV_BLOCK_ALLOCATED into NBD_STATE_HOLE
>>
>> In block/nbd.c, we turn !NBD_STATE_HOLE into BDRV_BLOCK_DATA
>>
>> The fact that we are not doing a round-trip conversion means that one of
>> the two places is wrong. And your argument that the server side is
>> wrong makes sense to me.
>
> In fact, when I went back and researched when this was introduced (see
> commit e7b1948d51 in 2018), we may have been aware of the inconsistency
> between client and server, but didn't make up our minds at the time:
> https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/qemu-devel/2018-03/msg03465.html
> "? Hm, don't remember, what we decided about DATA/HOLE flags mapping.."
>
>>
>> I'll wait a few days for any other reviewer commentary before taking
>> this through my NBD tree.
>>
>
I can add the following.
First, link to my research of block_status in Qemu: https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/qemu-devel/2020-04/msg05136.html
And about HOLE and ZERO..
As I've noted in the research above, SCSI may return HOLE & !ZERO:
from SCSI:
Logical Block Provisioning Read Zeros (LBPRZ) bit
1 If the logical block provisioning read zeros (LBPRZ) bit is set to one, then, for an unmapped LBA specified by a read operation, the deviceserver shall send user data with all bits set to zero to the data-in buffer.
0 If the TPRZ bit is set to zero, then, for an unmapped LBA specified by a read operation, the device server may send user data with all bitsset to any value to the data-in buffer.
So we can have an unmapped area that can be read as any random data. Same thing can be said about null-co driver with read-zeroes=false
Also, qcow2 support ALLOCATED ZERO clusters which reads as zero but data is allocated - they are reasonable to report as ZERO & !HOLE
And of-course UNALLOCATED ZERO clusters in qcow2 and lseek-holes are reasonable to report as ZERO & HOLE, because they reads as zero and "future writes to that area may cause fragmentation or encounter an NBD_ENOSPC"..
So, all combination are reasonable, we just need to fix Qemu NBD server to report correct statuses in all these cases.
It seems that ZERO/HOLE specification is a lot more reasonable than what we have with ZERO/DATA/ALLOCATED in Qemu, and may be true way is move internal block_status to use NBD terms.
And thanks for CCing me. Hmm, maybe, I'll suggest myself as co-maintainer for NBD?
--
Best regards,
Vladimir
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-02-25 18:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-02-19 16:07 [PATCH] nbd: server: Report holes for raw images Nir Soffer
2021-02-19 16:42 ` Eric Blake
2021-02-19 16:58 ` Eric Blake
2021-02-25 18:50 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy [this message]
2021-03-03 21:45 ` Nir Soffer
2021-03-03 21:51 ` Eric Blake
2021-03-04 12:22 ` Kevin Wolf
2021-02-25 18:15 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
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