From: Andrea Bolognani <abologna@redhat.com>
To: Dave Martin <Dave.Martin@arm.com>
Cc: "peter.maydell@linaro.org" <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
Andrew Jones <drjones@redhat.com>,
Richard Henderson <richard.henderson@linaro.org>,
"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
"armbru@redhat.com" <armbru@redhat.com>,
"qemu-arm@nongnu.org" <qemu-arm@nongnu.org>,
"alex.bennee@linaro.org" <alex.bennee@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/13] target/arm/kvm: enable SVE in guests
Date: Wed, 15 May 2019 13:28:20 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <6ab7415d80419a7d9ac832b9194bf2d944696cd9.camel@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190515111420.GR28398@e103592.cambridge.arm.com>
On Wed, 2019-05-15 at 12:14 +0100, Dave Martin wrote:
> On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 09:03:58AM +0100, Andrea Bolognani wrote:
> > On Tue, 2019-05-14 at 13:14 -0700, Richard Henderson wrote:
> > > Why is =4 less user-friendly than =512?
> > >
> > > I don't actually see "total bits in vector" as more user-friendly than "number
> > > of quadwords" when it comes to non-powers-of-2 like =7 vs =896 or =13 vs =1664.
> >
> > I would wager most people are intimately familiar with bits, bytes
> > and multiples due to having to work with them daily. Quadwords, not
> > so much.
>
> Generally I tend to agree. For kvmtool I leaned torward quadwords
> purely because
>
> 16,32,48,64,80,96,112,128,144,160,176,192,208
>
> is a big pain to type compared with
>
> 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13
>
> Even though I prefer to specify vector lengths in bytes everywhere else
> in the Linux user API (precisely to avoid the confusion you object to).
>
> This isn't finalised yet for kvmtool -- I need to rework the patches
> and may not include it at all initially: kvmtool doesn't support
> migration, which is the main usecase for being able to specify an exact
> set of vector lengths AFAICT.
>
> Since this is otherwise only useful for migration, experimentation or
> machine-driven configuration, a bitmask
>
> 0x1fff
>
> as some have suggested may well be a pragmatic alternative for kvmtool.
Just to be clear, I have suggested using bits (or bytes or megabytes
depending on the exact value) only for the command-line-user-oriented
sve-vl-max option, which would take a single value.
For interoperation with the management layer, on the other hand,
using a bitmap is perfectly fine, and whether the values encoded
within are expressed in quadwords or whatever other format is largely
irrelevant, so long as it it's properly documented of course.
--
Andrea Bolognani / Red Hat / Virtualization
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-05-15 11:29 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-05-12 8:36 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/13] target/arm/kvm: enable SVE in guests Andrew Jones
2019-05-12 8:36 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 01/13] target/arm/kvm64: fix error returns Andrew Jones
2019-06-05 7:20 ` Auger Eric
2019-05-12 8:36 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 02/13] update-linux-headers: Add sve_context.h to asm-arm64 Andrew Jones
2019-06-05 7:21 ` Auger Eric
2019-06-05 7:30 ` Andrew Jones
2019-05-12 8:36 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 03/13] HACK: linux header update Andrew Jones
2019-05-12 8:36 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 04/13] target/arm/kvm: Move the get/put of fpsimd registers out Andrew Jones
2019-06-05 7:15 ` Auger Eric
2019-06-05 7:27 ` Andrew Jones
2019-05-12 8:36 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 05/13] target/arm/kvm: Add kvm_arch_get/put_sve Andrew Jones
2019-05-13 12:31 ` Dave Martin
2019-05-13 13:55 ` Andrew Jones
2019-05-13 15:31 ` Dave Martin
2019-05-13 15:40 ` Peter Maydell
2019-05-13 16:05 ` Dave Martin
2019-05-13 16:40 ` Richard Henderson
2019-05-13 18:14 ` Andrew Jones
2019-05-13 18:31 ` Richard Henderson
2019-05-13 12:43 ` Dave Martin
2019-05-13 14:07 ` Andrew Jones
2019-05-13 14:39 ` Dave Martin
2019-05-13 16:58 ` Richard Henderson
2019-05-14 9:10 ` Dave Martin
2019-05-12 8:36 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 06/13] target/arm/kvm: max cpu: Enable SVE when available Andrew Jones
2019-06-05 9:09 ` Auger Eric
2019-06-05 11:04 ` Andrew Jones
2019-05-12 8:36 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 07/13] target/arm/kvm: max cpu: Allow sve max vector length setting Andrew Jones
2019-05-13 17:19 ` Richard Henderson
2019-05-13 18:19 ` Andrew Jones
2019-06-06 8:30 ` Auger Eric
2019-06-06 8:53 ` Andrew Jones
2019-05-12 8:36 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 08/13] target/arm/monitor: Add query-sve-vector-lengths Andrew Jones
2019-05-13 16:12 ` Markus Armbruster
2019-05-13 18:30 ` Andrew Jones
2019-05-14 5:32 ` Markus Armbruster
2019-05-12 8:36 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 09/13] target/arm/kvm: Export kvm_arm_get_sve_vls Andrew Jones
2019-05-12 8:36 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/13] target/arm/monitor: kvm: only return valid sve vector sets Andrew Jones
2019-05-12 8:36 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 11/13] target/arm/cpu64: max cpu: Introduce sve-vls-map Andrew Jones
2019-05-13 11:26 ` Dave Martin
2019-05-13 12:30 ` Andrew Jones
2019-05-13 12:41 ` Dave Martin
2019-05-13 12:57 ` Andrew Jones
2019-05-13 13:12 ` Dave Martin
2019-05-13 13:45 ` Andrew Jones
2019-05-13 14:35 ` Dave Martin
2019-05-13 15:25 ` Markus Armbruster
2019-05-13 18:31 ` Andrew Jones
2019-05-12 8:36 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 12/13] target/arm/kvm: max cpu: Add support for sve-vls-map Andrew Jones
2019-05-12 8:36 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 13/13] target/arm/kvm: host " Andrew Jones
2019-05-13 15:37 ` Markus Armbruster
2019-05-13 18:33 ` Andrew Jones
2019-05-13 9:32 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/13] target/arm/kvm: enable SVE in guests Andrea Bolognani
2019-05-13 11:15 ` Dave Martin
2019-05-13 12:38 ` Andrew Jones
2019-05-13 12:50 ` Dave Martin
2019-05-13 12:36 ` Andrew Jones
2019-05-14 12:29 ` Andrea Bolognani
2019-05-14 12:53 ` Andrew Jones
2019-05-14 16:03 ` Andrea Bolognani
2019-05-14 20:14 ` Richard Henderson
2019-05-15 8:03 ` Andrea Bolognani
2019-05-15 11:14 ` Dave Martin
2019-05-15 11:28 ` Andrea Bolognani [this message]
2019-05-15 12:47 ` Dave Martin
2019-05-15 9:15 ` Andrew Jones
2019-05-13 9:52 ` Peter Maydell
2019-05-13 12:43 ` Andrew Jones
2019-05-13 18:46 ` Richard Henderson
2019-05-13 19:16 ` Andrew Jones
2019-05-14 9:05 ` Peter Maydell
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