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From: "Mi, Dapeng" <dapeng1.mi@linux.intel.com>
To: dongli.zhang@oracle.com, Zhao Liu <zhao1.liu@intel.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org, pbonzini@redhat.com,
	mtosatti@redhat.com, sandipan.das@amd.com, babu.moger@amd.com,
	likexu@tencent.com, like.xu.linux@gmail.com,
	zhenyuw@linux.intel.com, groug@kaod.org, lyan@digitalocean.com,
	khorenko@virtuozzo.com, alexander.ivanov@virtuozzo.com,
	den@virtuozzo.com, joe.jin@oracle.com,
	davydov-max@yandex-team.ru, zide.chen@intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/7] target/i386/kvm: introduce 'pmu-cap-disabled' to set KVM_PMU_CAP_DISABLE
Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2025 17:52:28 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6aefa9df-10e3-4001-a509-a4bc3850d65a@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f4a2f801-9f82-424e-aee4-8b18add34aa6@linux.intel.com>


On 11/21/2024 6:06 PM, Mi, Dapeng wrote:
> On 11/8/2024 7:44 AM, dongli.zhang@oracle.com wrote:
>> Hi Zhao,
>>
>>
>> On 11/6/24 11:52 PM, Zhao Liu wrote:
>>> (+Dapang & Zide)
>>>
>>> Hi Dongli,
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 04, 2024 at 01:40:17AM -0800, Dongli Zhang wrote:
>>>> Date: Mon,  4 Nov 2024 01:40:17 -0800
>>>> From: Dongli Zhang <dongli.zhang@oracle.com>
>>>> Subject: [PATCH 2/7] target/i386/kvm: introduce 'pmu-cap-disabled' to set
>>>>  KVM_PMU_CAP_DISABLE
>>>> X-Mailer: git-send-email 2.43.5
>>>>
>>>> The AMD PMU virtualization is not disabled when configuring
>>>> "-cpu host,-pmu" in the QEMU command line on an AMD server. Neither
>>>> "-cpu host,-pmu" nor "-cpu EPYC" effectively disables AMD PMU
>>>> virtualization in such an environment.
>>>>
>>>> As a result, VM logs typically show:
>>>>
>>>> [    0.510611] Performance Events: Fam17h+ core perfctr, AMD PMU driver.
>>>>
>>>> whereas the expected logs should be:
>>>>
>>>> [    0.596381] Performance Events: PMU not available due to virtualization, using software events only.
>>>> [    0.600972] NMI watchdog: Perf NMI watchdog permanently disabled
>>>>
>>>> This discrepancy occurs because AMD PMU does not use CPUID to determine
>>>> whether PMU virtualization is supported.
>>> Intel platform doesn't have this issue since Linux kernel fails to check
>>> the CPU family & model when "-cpu *,-pmu" option clears PMU version.
>>>
>>> The difference between Intel and AMD platforms, however, is that it seems
>>> Intel hardly ever reaches the “...due virtualization” message, but
>>> instead reports an error because it recognizes a mismatched family/model.
>>>
>>> This may be a drawback of the PMU driver's print message, but the result
>>> is the same, it prevents the PMU driver from enabling.
>>>
>>> So, please mention that KVM_PMU_CAP_DISABLE doesn't change the PMU
>>> behavior on Intel platform because current "pmu" property works as
>>> expected.
>> Sure. I will mention this in v2.
>>
>>>> To address this, we introduce a new property, 'pmu-cap-disabled', for KVM
>>>> acceleration. This property sets KVM_PMU_CAP_DISABLE if
>>>> KVM_CAP_PMU_CAPABILITY is supported. Note that this feature currently
>>>> supports only x86 hosts, as KVM_CAP_PMU_CAPABILITY is used exclusively for
>>>> x86 systems.
>>>>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Dongli Zhang <dongli.zhang@oracle.com>
>>>> ---
>>>> Another previous solution to re-use '-cpu host,-pmu':
>>>> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lore.kernel.org/all/20221119122901.2469-1-dongli.zhang@oracle.com/__;!!ACWV5N9M2RV99hQ!Nm8Db-mwBoMIwKkRqzC9kgNi5uZ7SCIf43zUBn92Ar_NEbLXq-ZkrDDvpvDQ4cnS2i4VyKAp6CRVE12bRkMF$ 
>>> IMO, I prefer the previous version. This VM-level KVM property is
>>> difficult to integrate with the existing CPU properties. Pls refer later
>>> comments for reasons.
>>>
>>>>  accel/kvm/kvm-all.c        |  1 +
>>>>  include/sysemu/kvm_int.h   |  1 +
>>>>  qemu-options.hx            |  9 ++++++-
>>>>  target/i386/cpu.c          |  2 +-
>>>>  target/i386/kvm/kvm.c      | 52 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>  target/i386/kvm/kvm_i386.h |  2 ++
>>>>  6 files changed, 65 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
>>>>
>>>> diff --git a/accel/kvm/kvm-all.c b/accel/kvm/kvm-all.c
>>>> index 801cff16a5..8b5ba45cf7 100644
>>>> --- a/accel/kvm/kvm-all.c
>>>> +++ b/accel/kvm/kvm-all.c
>>>> @@ -3933,6 +3933,7 @@ static void kvm_accel_instance_init(Object *obj)
>>>>      s->xen_evtchn_max_pirq = 256;
>>>>      s->device = NULL;
>>>>      s->msr_energy.enable = false;
>>>> +    s->pmu_cap_disabled = false;
>>>>  }
>>> The CPU property "pmu" also defaults to "false"...but:
>>>
>>>  * max CPU would override this and try to enable PMU by default in
>>>    max_x86_cpu_initfn().
>>>
>>>  * Other named CPU models keep the default setting to avoid affecting
>>>    the migration.
>>>
>>> The pmu_cap_disabled and “pmu” property look unbound and unassociated,
>>> so this can cause the conflict when they are not synchronized. For
>>> example,
>>>
>>> -cpu host -accel kvm,pmu-cap-disabled=on
>>>
>>> The above options will fail to launch a VM (on Intel platform).
>>>
>>> Ideally, the “pmu” property and pmu-cap-disabled should be bound to each
>>> other and be consistent. But it's not easy because:
>>>  - There is no proper way to have pmu_cap_disabled set different default
>>>    values (e.g., "false" for max CPU and "true" for named CPU models)
>>>    based on different CPU models.
>>>  - And, no proper place to check the consistency of pmu_cap_disabled and
>>>    enable_pmu.
>>>
>>> Therefore, I prefer your previous approach, to reuse current CPU "pmu"
>>> property.
>> Thank you very much for the suggestion and reasons.
>>
>> I am going to follow your suggestion to switch back to the previous solution in v2.
> +1.
>
>  I also prefer to leverage current exist "+/-pmu" option instead of adding
> a new option. More options, more complexity. When they are not
> inconsistent, which has higher priority? all these are issues.
>
> Although KVM_CAP_PMU_CAPABILITY is a VM-level PMU capability, but all CPUs
> in a same VM should always share same PMU configuration (Don't consider
> hybrid platforms which have many issues need to be handled specifically).
>
>
>>> Further, considering that this is currently the only case that needs to
>>> to set the VM level's capability in the CPU context, there is no need to
>>> introduce a new kvm interface (in your previous patch), which can instead
>>> be set in kvm_cpu_realizefn(), like:
>>>
>>>
>>> diff --git a/target/i386/kvm/kvm-cpu.c b/target/i386/kvm/kvm-cpu.c
>>> index 99d1941cf51c..05e9c9a1a0cf 100644
>>> --- a/target/i386/kvm/kvm-cpu.c
>>> +++ b/target/i386/kvm/kvm-cpu.c
>>> @@ -42,6 +42,8 @@ static bool kvm_cpu_realizefn(CPUState *cs, Error **errp)
>>>  {
>>>      X86CPU *cpu = X86_CPU(cs);
>>>      CPUX86State *env = &cpu->env;
>>> +    KVMState *s = kvm_state;
>>> +    static bool first = true;
>>>      bool ret;
>>>
>>>      /*
>>> @@ -63,6 +65,29 @@ static bool kvm_cpu_realizefn(CPUState *cs, Error **errp)
>>>       *   check/update ucode_rev, phys_bits, guest_phys_bits, mwait
>>>       *   cpu_common_realizefn() (via xcc->parent_realize)
>>>       */
>>> +
>>> +    if (first) {
>>> +        first = false;
>>> +
>>> +        /*
>>> +         * Since Linux v5.18, KVM provides a VM-level capability to easily
>>> +         * disable PMUs; however, QEMU has been providing PMU property per
>>> +         * CPU since v1.6. In order to accommodate both, have to configure
>>> +         * the VM-level capability here.
>>> +         */
>>> +        if (!cpu->enable_pmu &&
>>> +            kvm_check_extension(s, KVM_CAP_PMU_CAPABILITY)) {
>>> +            int r = kvm_vm_enable_cap(s, KVM_CAP_PMU_CAPABILITY, 0,
>>> +                                      KVM_PMU_CAP_DISABLE);
>>> +
>>> +            if (r < 0) {
>>> +                error_setg(errp, "kvm: Failed to disable pmu cap: %s",
>>> +                           strerror(-r));
>>> +                return false;
>>> +            }
>>> +        }
> It seems KVM_CAP_PMU_CAPABILITY is called to only disable PMU here. From
> point view of logic completeness,  KVM_CAP_PMU_CAPABILITY should be called
> to enabled PMU as well when user wants to enable PMU.
>
> I know currently we only need to disable PMU, but we may need to enable PMU
> via KVM_CAP_PMU_CAPABILITY soon.
>
> We are working on the new KVM mediated vPMU framework, Sean suggest to
> leverage KVM_CAP_PMU_CAPABILITY to enable mediated vPMU dynamically
> (https://lore.kernel.org/all/Zz4uhmuPcZl9vJVr@google.com/). So It would be
> better if the enable logic can be added here as well.
>
> Thanks.

Hi Dongli,

May I know if you have plan to continue to update this patch recently? As
previous comment said, our KVM mediated vPMU solution needs qemu to
explicitly call KVM_CAP_PMU_CAPABILITY to enable mediated vPMU as well. If
you have no plan to update this patch recently, would you mind me to pick
up this patch
(https://lore.kernel.org/all/20221119122901.2469-2-dongli.zhang@oracle.com/)
and post with other our mediated vPMU related patches to enable mediated vPMU?

Thanks!

Dapeng Mi

>
>
>>> +    }
>>> +
>>>      if (cpu->max_features) {
>>>          if (enable_cpu_pm) {
>>>              if (kvm_has_waitpkg()) {
>>> ---
>> Sure. I will limit the change within only x86 + KVM.
>>
>>> In addition, if PMU is disabled, why not mask the perf related bits in
>>> 8000_0001_ECX? :)
>>>
>> My fault. I have masked only 0x80000022, and I forgot 0x80000001 for AMD.
>>
>> Thank you very much for the reminder.
>>
>>
>> I will wait for a day or maybe the weekend. I am going to switch to the previous
>> solution in v2 if there isn't any further objection with a more valid reason.
>>
>> Thank you very much for the feedback!
>>
>> Dongli Zhang
>>
>>


  reply	other threads:[~2025-02-07  9:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-11-04  9:40 [PATCH 0/7] target/i386/kvm/pmu: Enhancement, Bugfix and Cleanup Dongli Zhang
2024-11-04  9:40 ` [PATCH 1/7] target/i386: disable PerfMonV2 when PERFCORE unavailable Dongli Zhang
2024-11-06  3:54   ` Zhao Liu
2024-11-07  0:29     ` dongli.zhang
2024-11-07  7:57       ` Zhao Liu
2024-11-04  9:40 ` [PATCH 2/7] target/i386/kvm: introduce 'pmu-cap-disabled' to set KVM_PMU_CAP_DISABLE Dongli Zhang
2024-11-07  7:52   ` Zhao Liu
2024-11-07 23:44     ` dongli.zhang
2024-11-08  2:32       ` Zhao Liu
2024-11-08 12:52       ` Sandipan Das
2024-11-13 17:15       ` Zhao Liu
2024-11-14  0:13         ` dongli.zhang
2024-11-21 10:06       ` Mi, Dapeng
2025-02-07  9:52         ` Mi, Dapeng [this message]
2025-02-09 20:12           ` dongli.zhang
2025-02-10  8:04             ` Mi, Dapeng
2024-11-04  9:40 ` [PATCH 3/7] target/i386/kvm: init PMU information only once Dongli Zhang
2024-11-10 15:29   ` Zhao Liu
2024-11-13  1:50     ` dongli.zhang
2024-11-13 16:48       ` Zhao Liu
2024-11-04  9:40 ` [PATCH 4/7] target/i386/kvm: rename architectural PMU variables Dongli Zhang
2024-11-04  9:40 ` [PATCH 5/7] target/i386/kvm: reset AMD PMU registers during VM reset Dongli Zhang
2024-11-06  9:58   ` Sandipan Das
2024-11-07  0:33     ` dongli.zhang
2024-11-07 21:00   ` Maksim Davydov
2024-11-08  1:19     ` dongli.zhang
2024-11-08 14:07       ` Maksim Davydov
2024-11-08 18:04         ` dongli.zhang
2024-11-04  9:40 ` [PATCH 6/7] target/i386/kvm: support perfmon-v2 for reset Dongli Zhang
2024-11-08 13:09   ` Sandipan Das
2024-11-08 16:55     ` dongli.zhang
2024-11-04  9:40 ` [PATCH 7/7] target/i386/kvm: don't stop Intel PMU counters Dongli Zhang

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