Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: Re: The QEMU Accelerator Module

["René Korthaus" <wlannews@cordney.com>]

Am 12.02.2005 um 20:48 schrieb Natalia Portillo:

> Hi
>
> You misunderstood me!
>
>> This comparison lacks a bit of knowledge about the license that QemuX 
>> is published with. See http://creativecommons.org/licenses/GPL/2.0/.
> Are you selling QemuX?
> If yes, is it being sold as the "VirtualPC killer that runs under G5"?
> If i don't remember bad, answers for both is not, so I'm not refering 
> to QemuX, but to iEmulator and similars that ARE A QUICK AND DIRTY GUI 
> for QEMU and are being sold without even showing the QEMU's copyright.

Okay, so I simply misunderstood... sorry for that.


>
> I've never said that VMWare is a GUI, I refered that in 5 minutes you 
> could (if KQEMU wasn't in propietary license) write a quick and dirty 
> GUI for KQEMU and sell it for the practically the same $$$ as VMWare 
> and people will buy it, and what will you do?
>
>>>  and nor Fabrice nor other QEMU collaborators see money from that, 
>>> like the WinZip program that is nothing but a commercial GUI for the 
>>> Info-ZIP compression library.
>>
>> I don't see any money from that, too. Of course if if ever get 
>> donations I will pass something to Fabrice, but my software is far 
>> away from being worth a donation ;-). Fabrice could at least stop 
>> this iEmulator thing by telling them to follow GPL/LGPL and 
>> publishing sources for their qemu version.
> I think that their QEMU version is simply 0.6.0 untouched, I must 
> check that more in deep.
> And what if they don't want to follow GPL/LGPL?
> Who will pay the lawyers?

That's a good question!

>
>>>
>>> Just imagine what will happen if someone takes KQEMU makes a dirty 
>>> GUI and sells it. Just like the VMWare cost... Image how much could 
>>> someone get from KQEMU just investing 5 minutes in a RAD enviroment, 
>>> selling it and leaving Fabrice with NOTHING.
>>
>> I must agree to Jean-Christian on that point, a GUI is not programmed 
>> in 5 minutes and all that qemu can earn for a GUI is publicity.
> Do you know RealBASIC, Visual Studio .NET and other RAD (Rapid 
> Application Developments)?
>
> I wrote a GUI for ffmpeg in 5 minutes using them ;).
>
> So definitly a GUI can be programmed in 5 minutes.
>
> From a GUI QEMU will earn publicity, but from a GUI that is sold like 
> an emulator, as iEmulator, it wont earn anything.

You're right again.

>
>>>
>>> I think that the current Fabrice's movement is the correct one and I 
>>> hope that a company will sponsor not only the KQEMU but the whole 
>>> QEMU project as is the BEST and MOST COMPLETE non-old computer 
>>> emulator, and also, its fast, and it's worth it.
>>>
>>> There are a lot of companies interested in open source projects, 
>>> like Novell, IBM, Apple, did anyone tried to contact them?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Natalia Portillo
>>>
>>> P.S.: Anand I think that your action of complaining Savannah could 
>>> "hurt" (sorry I don't know the exact word) Fabrice and is based on 
>>> another person's words, and is more a child's action than one from 
>>> an adult. You should just have let Fabrice to see that he was 
>>> breaking Savannah's rules.
>>> P.S.2: Fabrice if you need a CVS server I offer my modest server.
>>>
>>> These are my 2 eurocents ;)
>>>
>>> El 12/02/2005, a las 6:14, Anand Kumria escribió:
>>>
>>>> On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 03:01:53 +0100, Johannes Schindelin wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, 12 Feb 2005, Anand Kumria wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Is it really fair to distribute a proprietary module from a free
>>>>>> software source code repository?
>>>>>
>>>>> Is it really fair to expect others to work for nothing at all?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Are you actually this stupid?
>>>>
>>>> Or is it that English isn't you native language and you've missed 
>>>> the
>>>> subtle point that qemu is breaking the rules of savannah by 
>>>> distributing a
>>>> binary module?
>>>>
>>>> I was trying to be polite and subtle about it so that Fabrice could
>>>> consider his options and make a considered cautious move.
>>>>
>>>> Anyway, because of your response, I've complained to the savannah
>>>> administrators.
>>>>
>>>> No thanks to you.
>>>>
>>>> Anand
>>>>
>>>>
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