From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1D07ZQ-0006XH-2s for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Sat, 12 Feb 2005 19:25:04 -0500 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1D07ZB-0006Qe-AW for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Sat, 12 Feb 2005 19:24:50 -0500 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1D07ZA-0006Pk-T2 for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Sat, 12 Feb 2005 19:24:48 -0500 Received: from [83.133.48.170] (helo=dd5816.kasserver.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1D07IY-00083j-1v for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Sat, 12 Feb 2005 19:07:38 -0500 Received: from [10.0.0.100] (pD9EB078D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [217.235.7.141]) by dd5816.kasserver.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B9C823368E for ; Sun, 13 Feb 2005 01:07:36 +0100 (CET) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619.2) In-Reply-To: References: <420BEEB7.1010906@bellard.org> <92ca7a0de3772599b8b0b0e4e53973c9@teleline.es> <653df022dd8bd6dfb6c4747c4af0a9bb@cordney.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Message-Id: <6b4f2dc1b1b4bbf9e2d54b53fed3e12e@cordney.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ren=E9_Korthaus?= Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: Re: The QEMU Accelerator Module Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 01:07:30 +0100 Reply-To: qemu-devel@nongnu.org List-Id: qemu-devel.nongnu.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: qemu-devel@nongnu.org Am 12.02.2005 um 20:48 schrieb Natalia Portillo: > Hi > > You misunderstood me! > >> This comparison lacks a bit of knowledge about the license that QemuX=20= >> is published with. See http://creativecommons.org/licenses/GPL/2.0/. > Are you selling QemuX? > If yes, is it being sold as the "VirtualPC killer that runs under G5"? > If i don't remember bad, answers for both is not, so I'm not refering=20= > to QemuX, but to iEmulator and similars that ARE A QUICK AND DIRTY GUI=20= > for QEMU and are being sold without even showing the QEMU's copyright. Okay, so I simply misunderstood... sorry for that. > > I've never said that VMWare is a GUI, I refered that in 5 minutes you=20= > could (if KQEMU wasn't in propietary license) write a quick and dirty=20= > GUI for KQEMU and sell it for the practically the same $$$ as VMWare=20= > and people will buy it, and what will you do? > >>> and nor Fabrice nor other QEMU collaborators see money from that,=20= >>> like the WinZip program that is nothing but a commercial GUI for the=20= >>> Info-ZIP compression library. >> >> I don't see any money from that, too. Of course if if ever get=20 >> donations I will pass something to Fabrice, but my software is far=20 >> away from being worth a donation ;-). Fabrice could at least stop=20 >> this iEmulator thing by telling them to follow GPL/LGPL and=20 >> publishing sources for their qemu version. > I think that their QEMU version is simply 0.6.0 untouched, I must=20 > check that more in deep. > And what if they don't want to follow GPL/LGPL? > Who will pay the lawyers? That's a good question! > >>> >>> Just imagine what will happen if someone takes KQEMU makes a dirty=20= >>> GUI and sells it. Just like the VMWare cost... Image how much could=20= >>> someone get from KQEMU just investing 5 minutes in a RAD enviroment,=20= >>> selling it and leaving Fabrice with NOTHING. >> >> I must agree to Jean-Christian on that point, a GUI is not programmed=20= >> in 5 minutes and all that qemu can earn for a GUI is publicity. > Do you know RealBASIC, Visual Studio .NET and other RAD (Rapid=20 > Application Developments)? > > I wrote a GUI for ffmpeg in 5 minutes using them ;). > > So definitly a GUI can be programmed in 5 minutes. > > =46rom a GUI QEMU will earn publicity, but from a GUI that is sold = like=20 > an emulator, as iEmulator, it wont earn anything. You're right again. > >>> >>> I think that the current Fabrice's movement is the correct one and I=20= >>> hope that a company will sponsor not only the KQEMU but the whole=20 >>> QEMU project as is the BEST and MOST COMPLETE non-old computer=20 >>> emulator, and also, its fast, and it's worth it. >>> >>> There are a lot of companies interested in open source projects,=20 >>> like Novell, IBM, Apple, did anyone tried to contact them? >>> >>> Regards, >>> Natalia Portillo >>> >>> P.S.: Anand I think that your action of complaining Savannah could=20= >>> "hurt" (sorry I don't know the exact word) Fabrice and is based on=20= >>> another person's words, and is more a child's action than one from=20= >>> an adult. You should just have let Fabrice to see that he was=20 >>> breaking Savannah's rules. >>> P.S.2: Fabrice if you need a CVS server I offer my modest server. >>> >>> These are my 2 eurocents ;) >>> >>> El 12/02/2005, a las 6:14, Anand Kumria escribi=F3: >>> >>>> On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 03:01:53 +0100, Johannes Schindelin wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, 12 Feb 2005, Anand Kumria wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Is it really fair to distribute a proprietary module from a free >>>>>> software source code repository? >>>>> >>>>> Is it really fair to expect others to work for nothing at all? >>>>> >>>> >>>> Are you actually this stupid? >>>> >>>> Or is it that English isn't you native language and you've missed=20= >>>> the >>>> subtle point that qemu is breaking the rules of savannah by=20 >>>> distributing a >>>> binary module? >>>> >>>> I was trying to be polite and subtle about it so that Fabrice could >>>> consider his options and make a considered cautious move. >>>> >>>> Anyway, because of your response, I've complained to the savannah >>>> administrators. >>>> >>>> No thanks to you. >>>> >>>> Anand >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Qemu-devel mailing list >>>> Qemu-devel@nongnu.org >>>> http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/qemu-devel >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Qemu-devel mailing list >>> Qemu-devel@nongnu.org >>> http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/qemu-devel >>> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Qemu-devel mailing list >> Qemu-devel@nongnu.org >> http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/qemu-devel >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > Qemu-devel mailing list > Qemu-devel@nongnu.org > http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/qemu-devel >