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From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: "Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Vadim Rozenfeld <vrozenfe@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] target/i386: introduce CPU property to work around Windows reset bug
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2022 12:24:02 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6bad2204-4a21-19e7-e2f6-3ef30632bda4@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YjxQAKKKBR3oHdRN@redhat.com>

On 3/24/22 12:03, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
> 
>    "This only applies to virtual machine hardware version 10 as Windows
>     resets the TSC on all CPUs on virtual machines with older hardware
>     versions (which do not support hypervisor.cpuid.v2)."
> 
> do you know what they mean when they refer to 'hypervisor.cpuid.v2'
> here ? I wonder if it gives any hints as to a root cause that could
> be fixed ?

The difference between hardware versions probably is that older versions 
do not support Hyper-V enlightenments.  The bug does not happen if 
Windows uses the RTC for timekeeping, which is consistent with the 
description above.

> This hardware version 10 is well old - their current hardware version
> is 19, so it seems to show the implemented some built-in fix in newer
> hardware versions (their equiv of machine types). The vmware setting
> dates from 2013, and if I read that kbase correctly isn't needed on
> their modern hardware versions. Or maybe monitor_control.enable_softResetClearTSC
> became the default in newer hardware versions ?

Yeah, maybe it became the default but they didn't want to change 
previously-released hardware versions.  So that would be basically 
treating it as an ABI change, and only enable it in 7.0 machine types.

That said, the VMware kbase does paint a slightly different picture.  It 
implies that starting with hardware version 11 rebooting Windows is done 
through a hard reset instead of INIT.  I'm not sure how that would be 
done, but in the meanwhile our fix should take care of do_cpu_init as well.

Paolo


  reply	other threads:[~2022-03-24 11:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-03-24  8:23 [PATCH] target/i386: introduce CPU property to work around Windows reset bug Paolo Bonzini
2022-03-24  9:13 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2022-03-24  9:15   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2022-03-24  9:42     ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-03-24 11:03       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2022-03-24 11:24         ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2022-03-24 17:13           ` Paolo Bonzini
2022-03-24 17:37             ` Daniel P. Berrangé

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