From: Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy <vsementsov@virtuozzo.com>
To: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>
Cc: qemu-block@nongnu.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org, jsnow@redhat.com,
mreitz@redhat.com, philmd@redhat.com, peter.maydell@linaro.org,
berto@igalia.com, stefanha@redhat.com, pbonzini@redhat.com,
den@openvz.org, eblake@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 0/5] Fix accidental crash in iotest 30
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2020 21:19:34 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <6d6b17b9-80d6-aa90-6e1b-f8519ae181cc@virtuozzo.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20201120172251.GE5599@merkur.fritz.box>
20.11.2020 20:22, Kevin Wolf wrote:
> Am 20.11.2020 um 17:43 hat Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy geschrieben:
>> 20.11.2020 19:36, Kevin Wolf wrote:
>>> Am 20.11.2020 um 17:16 hat Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy geschrieben:
>>>> Hi all!
>>>>
>>>> As Peter recently noted, iotest 30 accidentally fails.
>>>>
>>>> I found that Qemu crashes due to interleaving of graph-update
>>>> operations of parallel mirror and stream block-jobs.
>>>
>>> I haven't found the time yet to properly look into this or your other
>>> thread where you had a similar question, but there is one thing I'm
>>> wondering: Why can the nested job even make progress and run its
>>> completion handler?
>>>
>>> When we modify the graph, we should have drained the subtree in
>>> question, so in theory while one job finishes and modifies the graph,
>>> there should be no way for the other job to make progress and get
>>> interleaved - it shouldn't be able to start I/O requests and much less
>>> to run its completion handler and modify the graph.
>>>
>>> Are we missing drained sections somewhere or do they fail to achieve
>>> what I think they should achieve?
>>>
>>
>> It all looks like both jobs are reached their finish simultaneously.
>> So, all progress is done in both jobs. And they go concurrently to
>> completion procedures which interleaves. So, there no more io through
>> blk, which is restricted by drained sections.
>
> They can't be truly simultaneous because they run in the same thread.
> During job completion, this is the main thread.
No, they not truly simultaneous, but completions may interleave through nested aio_poll loops.
>
> However as soon as job_is_completed() returns true, it seems we're not
> pausing the job any more when one of its nodes gets drained.
>
> Possibly also relevant: The job->busy = false in job_exit(). The comment
> there says it's a lie, but we might deadlock otherwise.
>
> This problem will probably affect other callers, too, which drain a
> subtree and then resonably expect that nobody will modify the graph
> until they end the drained section. So I think the problem that we need
> to address is that jobs run their completion handlers even though they
> are supposed to be paused by a drain.
Hmm. I always thought about drained section as about thing that stops IO requests, not other operations.. And we do graph modifications in drained section to avoid in-flight IO requests during graph modification.
>
> I'm not saying that your graph modification locks are a bad idea, but
> they are probably not a complete solution.
>
Hmm. What do you mean? It's of course not complete, as I didn't protect every graph modification procedure.. But if we do protect all such things and do graph modifications always under this mutex, it should work I think.
--
Best regards,
Vladimir
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-11-20 18:21 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-11-20 16:16 [PATCH RFC 0/5] Fix accidental crash in iotest 30 Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2020-11-20 16:16 ` [PATCH 1/5] abort-on-set-to-true Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2020-11-20 16:16 ` [PATCH 2/5] iotest-30-shorten: concentrate on failing test case Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2020-11-20 16:16 ` [PATCH 3/5] scripts/block-coroutine-wrapper.py: allow more function types Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2020-11-20 16:16 ` [PATCH 4/5] block: move some mirror and stream handlers to coroutine Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2020-11-20 16:16 ` [PATCH 5/5] block: protect some graph-modifyng things by mutex Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2020-11-20 16:27 ` [PATCH RFC 0/5] Fix accidental crash in iotest 30 no-reply
2020-11-20 16:35 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2020-11-20 16:36 ` Kevin Wolf
2020-11-20 16:43 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2020-11-20 17:22 ` Kevin Wolf
2020-11-20 18:19 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy [this message]
2020-11-23 10:10 ` Kevin Wolf
2020-11-23 10:29 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2020-11-23 11:10 ` Kevin Wolf
2020-11-23 13:44 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
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