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From: Richard Henderson <richard.henderson@linaro.org>
To: "Ilya Leoshkevich" <iii@linux.ibm.com>,
	"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"Alex Bennée" <alex.bennee@linaro.org>,
	"Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <philmd@linaro.org>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/18] Stop all qemu-cpu threads on a breakpoint
Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2024 12:51:18 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6d820efe-7f0b-4b6b-946d-e1815934e4e9@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7164df57c9c3eae2e6f27be7f6c890081740b2cc.camel@linux.ibm.com>

On 9/25/24 00:43, Ilya Leoshkevich wrote:
> On Tue, 2024-09-24 at 13:46 +0200, Richard Henderson wrote:
>> On 9/23/24 18:12, Ilya Leoshkevich wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> On reporting a breakpoint in a non-non-stop mode, GDB remotes must
>>> stop
>>> all threads. Currently qemu-user doesn't do that, breaking the
>>> debugging session for at least two reasons: concurrent access to
>>> the
>>> GDB socket, and an assertion within GDB [1].
>>>
>>> This series fixes this by importing pause_all_vcpus() from qemu-
>>> system.
>>> This in turn requires introducing BQL and a few stubs to qemu-user.
>>
>> I would have expected you to reuse (some portion of) start_exclusive,
>> which is already
>> part of qemu-user.  Is there a reason you chose a solution which
>> requires...
>>
>>>     replay: Add replay_mutex_{lock,unlock}() stubs for qemu-user
>>>     qemu-timer: Provide qemu_clock_enable() stub for qemu-user
>>>     cpu: Use BQL in qemu-user
>>
>> all sorts of other infrastructure?
>>
>>
>> r~
> 
> I don't think start_exclusive() would protect the gdb socket from
> concurrent accesses (e.g., if two threads are simultaneously stopped).

Of course it would, otherwise "exclusive" has no meaning.
All other cpus are blocked in exclusive_idle().

Importantly, no cpus are blocked in syscalls, where the kernel can modify memory behind 
gdbstub's back (e.g. read).  I think considering "in_syscall" to be "paused" a mistake.


r~


  reply	other threads:[~2024-10-05 19:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-09-23 16:12 [PATCH 00/18] Stop all qemu-cpu threads on a breakpoint Ilya Leoshkevich
2024-09-23 16:12 ` [PATCH 01/18] gdbstub: Make gdb_get_char() static Ilya Leoshkevich
2024-10-05 19:20   ` Richard Henderson
2024-09-23 16:12 ` [PATCH 02/18] gdbstub: Move phy_memory_mode to GDBSystemState Ilya Leoshkevich
2024-10-05 19:21   ` Richard Henderson
2024-09-23 16:12 ` [PATCH 03/18] gdbstub: Move gdb_syscall_mode to GDBSyscallState Ilya Leoshkevich
2024-10-05 19:22   ` Richard Henderson
2024-09-23 16:12 ` [PATCH 04/18] gdbstub: Factor out gdb_try_stop() Ilya Leoshkevich
2024-10-05 19:26   ` Richard Henderson
2024-09-23 16:13 ` [PATCH 05/18] accel/tcg: Factor out cpu_exec_user() Ilya Leoshkevich
2024-10-05 19:29   ` Richard Henderson
2024-09-23 16:13 ` [PATCH 06/18] qemu-thread: Introduce QEMU_MUTEX_INITIALIZER Ilya Leoshkevich
2024-10-05 19:30   ` Richard Henderson
2024-09-23 16:13 ` [PATCH 07/18] qemu-thread: Introduce QEMU_COND_INITIALIZER Ilya Leoshkevich
2024-10-05 19:30   ` Richard Henderson
2024-09-23 16:13 ` [PATCH 08/18] replay: Add replay_mutex_{lock, unlock}() stubs for qemu-user Ilya Leoshkevich
2024-09-23 16:13 ` [PATCH 09/18] qemu-timer: Provide qemu_clock_enable() stub " Ilya Leoshkevich
2024-09-23 16:13 ` [PATCH 10/18] cpu: Use BQL in qemu-user Ilya Leoshkevich
2024-09-23 16:13 ` [PATCH 11/18] accel/tcg: Unify user implementations of qemu_cpu_kick() Ilya Leoshkevich
2024-10-05 19:31   ` Richard Henderson
2024-09-23 16:13 ` [PATCH 12/18] cpu: Track CPUs executing syscalls Ilya Leoshkevich
2024-09-23 16:13 ` [PATCH 13/18] cpu: Implement cpu_thread_is_idle() for qemu-user Ilya Leoshkevich
2024-09-23 16:13 ` [PATCH 14/18] cpu: Introduce cpu_is_paused() Ilya Leoshkevich
2024-09-23 16:13 ` [PATCH 15/18] cpu: Set current_cpu early in qemu-user Ilya Leoshkevich
2024-09-23 16:13 ` [PATCH 16/18] cpu: Allow pausing and resuming CPUs " Ilya Leoshkevich
2024-09-23 16:13 ` [PATCH 17/18] gdbstub: Pause all CPUs before sending stop replies Ilya Leoshkevich
2024-09-23 16:13 ` [PATCH 18/18] tests/tcg: Stress test thread breakpoints Ilya Leoshkevich
2024-09-23 16:37 ` [PATCH 00/18] Stop all qemu-cpu threads on a breakpoint Ilya Leoshkevich
2024-09-24 11:46 ` Richard Henderson
2024-09-25  7:43   ` Ilya Leoshkevich
2024-10-05 19:51     ` Richard Henderson [this message]
2024-10-05 20:26       ` Ilya Leoshkevich
2024-10-05 20:35         ` Ilya Leoshkevich
2024-10-08 18:17           ` Richard Henderson
2024-10-09 22:01             ` Ilya Leoshkevich
2025-01-08 15:56 ` Alex Bennée
2025-01-08 16:20   ` Ilya Leoshkevich

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