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From: John Snow <jsnow@redhat.com>
To: "Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <philmd@redhat.com>,
	"Markus Armbruster" <armbru@redhat.com>,
	"Hervé Poussineau" <hpoussin@reactos.org>
Cc: Juan Quintela <quintela@redhat.com>,
	"Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>,
	Thomas Huth <thuth@redhat.com>,
	Mark Cave-Ayland <mark.cave-ayland@ilande.co.uk>,
	Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>,
	QEMU Developers <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] How to correctly use more than 2 floppy drives?
Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2019 13:38:42 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6e29bbde-4271-70d2-614b-4c06a4fb079d@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <68660807-deb6-f08a-f714-7fa1782c70bf@redhat.com>



On 4/9/19 7:38 AM, Philippe Mathieu-Daudé wrote:
> On 4/8/19 9:30 PM, John Snow wrote:
>> On 4/8/19 1:38 AM, Markus Armbruster wrote:
>>> Hervé Poussineau <hpoussin@reactos.org> writes:
>>>
>>>> Le 05/04/2019 à 12:29, Philippe Mathieu-Daudé a écrit :
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> I am trying to understand the possible values for the MAX_FD variable
>>>>> used by the floppy controller model (hw/block/fdc.c).
> 
>> Out of curiosity, why?
> 
> Cleaning Super I/O chipset I figured some code uses arrays of 2 elements
> while other use MAX_FD. If we want to have a build-configurable MAX_FD
> we can't simply replace "2" -> "MAX_FD" to clean the codebase, we need
> to correct various places, and fix migration.
> If we agree that MAX_FD is strictly 2, then we can clean the codebase
> and remove the MAX_FD != 2 cases (point 3/ below).

OK! I just get nervous when people start poking around floppy disks :)

It's "maintained" but really I just keep it on life support. If anyone
were to claim responsibility for it I would happily let them. As you can
guess, floppy disks are not a huge business priority for my employer and
I am not personally passionate about them, so...

I just keep it alive out of kindness and, for a time, support for
loading virtio drivers on Windows XP VMs, which is a use case that Red
Hat doesn't care about too much anymore.

>>
>> I think I'd rather have MAX_FD set to 2 and a cleaner codebase than a
>> half-working implementation for 4.
>>
>> Or, does it actually work with four? I think if Hervé wants to preserve
>> this feature it should be formalized as a device property and made to
>> work with migration ... or I am content to remove it.
> 
> I understand Hervé doesn't want to preserve his attempt ("no emulated
> board took advantage of it"), and the work is safe in the git history if
> someone want to restore it (in a way that doesn't break migration).
> 
> Since we all seems to agree, I prepared a series to remove it and will
> send it soon (although there is no rush).
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Phil.
> 

Sounds good, thank you!

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From: John Snow <jsnow@redhat.com>
To: "Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <philmd@redhat.com>,
	"Markus Armbruster" <armbru@redhat.com>,
	"Hervé Poussineau" <hpoussin@reactos.org>
Cc: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>, Thomas Huth <thuth@redhat.com>,
	Juan Quintela <quintela@redhat.com>,
	Mark Cave-Ayland <mark.cave-ayland@ilande.co.uk>,
	QEMU Developers <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	"Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] How to correctly use more than 2 floppy drives?
Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2019 13:38:42 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6e29bbde-4271-70d2-614b-4c06a4fb079d@redhat.com> (raw)
Message-ID: <20190409173842.0M_hiFJACw3oJl3xFX4d7cZOhiIxNH7ZPw-AOXYohvw@z> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <68660807-deb6-f08a-f714-7fa1782c70bf@redhat.com>



On 4/9/19 7:38 AM, Philippe Mathieu-Daudé wrote:
> On 4/8/19 9:30 PM, John Snow wrote:
>> On 4/8/19 1:38 AM, Markus Armbruster wrote:
>>> Hervé Poussineau <hpoussin@reactos.org> writes:
>>>
>>>> Le 05/04/2019 à 12:29, Philippe Mathieu-Daudé a écrit :
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> I am trying to understand the possible values for the MAX_FD variable
>>>>> used by the floppy controller model (hw/block/fdc.c).
> 
>> Out of curiosity, why?
> 
> Cleaning Super I/O chipset I figured some code uses arrays of 2 elements
> while other use MAX_FD. If we want to have a build-configurable MAX_FD
> we can't simply replace "2" -> "MAX_FD" to clean the codebase, we need
> to correct various places, and fix migration.
> If we agree that MAX_FD is strictly 2, then we can clean the codebase
> and remove the MAX_FD != 2 cases (point 3/ below).

OK! I just get nervous when people start poking around floppy disks :)

It's "maintained" but really I just keep it on life support. If anyone
were to claim responsibility for it I would happily let them. As you can
guess, floppy disks are not a huge business priority for my employer and
I am not personally passionate about them, so...

I just keep it alive out of kindness and, for a time, support for
loading virtio drivers on Windows XP VMs, which is a use case that Red
Hat doesn't care about too much anymore.

>>
>> I think I'd rather have MAX_FD set to 2 and a cleaner codebase than a
>> half-working implementation for 4.
>>
>> Or, does it actually work with four? I think if Hervé wants to preserve
>> this feature it should be formalized as a device property and made to
>> work with migration ... or I am content to remove it.
> 
> I understand Hervé doesn't want to preserve his attempt ("no emulated
> board took advantage of it"), and the work is safe in the git history if
> someone want to restore it (in a way that doesn't break migration).
> 
> Since we all seems to agree, I prepared a series to remove it and will
> send it soon (although there is no rush).
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Phil.
> 

Sounds good, thank you!


  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-04-09 17:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-04-05 10:29 [Qemu-devel] How to correctly use more than 2 floppy drives? Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-04-05 10:29 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-04-05 10:53 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2019-04-05 10:53   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2019-04-05 16:35 ` Hervé Poussineau
2019-04-05 16:35   ` Hervé Poussineau
2019-04-08  5:38   ` Markus Armbruster
2019-04-08  5:38     ` Markus Armbruster
2019-04-08 19:30     ` John Snow
2019-04-08 19:30       ` John Snow
2019-04-09 11:38       ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-04-09 11:38         ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2019-04-09 17:38         ` John Snow [this message]
2019-04-09 17:38           ` John Snow

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