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From: Thomas Huth <thuth@redhat.com>
To: Pierre Morel <pmorel@linux.ibm.com>, qemu-s390x@nongnu.org
Cc: david@redhat.com, cohuck@redhat.com,
	richard.henderson@linaro.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	pasic@linux.ibm.com, borntraeger@de.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 3/5] s390x: topology: CPU topology objects and structures
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2021 10:12:02 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <70fafbc6-b1f6-dfec-6e5c-9eb863cae0a0@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c9193765-adae-d179-8a14-8bc88a288fe0@linux.ibm.com>

On 07/09/2021 14.45, Pierre Morel wrote:
> 
> 
> On 9/7/21 9:32 AM, Thomas Huth wrote:
>> On 22/07/2021 19.42, Pierre Morel wrote:
>>> We use new objects to have a dynamic administration of the CPU topology.
>>> The highier level object is the S390 book. In a first implementation
>>
> 
>>
>> I didn't spot any migration related code in here ... is this already 
>> migration-safe?
>>
> 
> Not sure at all.
> 
> The topology may change at any moment and we interpret PTF, the instruction 
> which tell us if the topology changed.
> Obviously the topology on the target may not be the same as on the source.
> 
> So what I propose is to disable topology change during the migration:
> - on migration start, disable PTF interpretation and block the 
> topology_change _report in the emulation.
> - on migration end set back PTF interpretation and unblock the emulation
> 
> In the case, in discussion with David on KVM, that we do not emulate PTF for 
> hosts without the stfl(11) we can even make it simpler in QEMU by always 
> reporting "no change" for PTF 2 in the emulation.
> 
> Note that the Linux kernel, even if the topology can change at any moment 
> use a polling every minute to check the topology changes, so I guess we can 
> ignore the optimization during the migration.
> 
> What do you think?

I don't have much clue, this topology stuff is still mostly a black box to 
me - so there is no interrupt or something similar presented to the guest 
when the topology changes? The guest really has to poll for changes? ... 
that sounds like a weird design to me... if the guest polls too frequently, 
it wastes cycles due to the polling - but if it polls not often enough, it 
could run for a while with wrong topology information?

  Thomas




  reply	other threads:[~2021-09-29  8:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-07-22 17:42 [PATCH v2 0/5] s390x: CPU Topology Pierre Morel
2021-07-22 17:42 ` [PATCH v2 1/5] s390x: kvm: topology: Linux header update Pierre Morel
2021-07-22 17:42 ` [PATCH v2 2/5] s390x: kvm: topology: interception of PTF instruction Pierre Morel
2021-08-03  8:10   ` Pierre Morel
2021-09-06 17:21   ` Thomas Huth
2021-09-07  8:40     ` Pierre Morel
2021-07-22 17:42 ` [PATCH v2 3/5] s390x: topology: CPU topology objects and structures Pierre Morel
2021-09-07  7:32   ` Thomas Huth
2021-09-07  9:18     ` Pierre Morel
2021-09-07 12:45     ` Pierre Morel
2021-09-29  8:12       ` Thomas Huth [this message]
2021-09-30  8:26         ` Pierre Morel
2021-07-22 17:42 ` [PATCH v2 4/5] s390x: topology: Topology list entries and SYSIB 15.x.x Pierre Morel
2021-09-07  7:46   ` Thomas Huth
2021-09-07  9:39     ` Pierre Morel
2021-09-07  7:54   ` Thomas Huth
2021-09-07  9:49     ` Pierre Morel
2021-07-22 17:42 ` [PATCH v2 5/5] s390x: topology: implementating Store Topology System Information Pierre Morel
2021-09-07  8:00   ` Thomas Huth
2021-09-07  9:52     ` Pierre Morel
2021-08-26  9:22 ` [PATCH v2 0/5] s390x: CPU Topology Pierre Morel
2021-08-30  9:54   ` Christian Borntraeger
2021-08-30 11:59     ` Pierre Morel

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