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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Janosch Frank <frankja@linux.ibm.com>, Halil Pasic <pasic@linux.ibm.com>
Cc: Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	 qemu-devel@nongnu.org, qemu-s390x@nongnu.org,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Thomas Huth <thuth@redhat.com>,
	Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@linux.ibm.com>,
	Eric Farman <farman@linux.ibm.com>,
	Richard Henderson <richard.henderson@linaro.org>,
	Ilya Leoshkevich <iii@linux.ibm.com>,
	Heiko Carstens <hca@linux.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 00/14] s390x: virtio-mem support
Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2024 14:23:35 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <72cb52cf-7bf5-487d-a299-e827dae5ece5@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e560fad5-8c24-4518-bb94-43ba8203ad2c@linux.ibm.com>

On 02.10.24 11:04, Janosch Frank wrote:
> On 10/1/24 10:54 AM, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>> On 30.09.24 23:49, Halil Pasic wrote:
>>> On Fri, 27 Sep 2024 20:29:19 +0200
>>> David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 27.09.24 20:20, Halil Pasic wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 11 Sep 2024 21:09:27 +0200
>>>>> David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com> wrote:
> 
> [...]
> 
>>> That is a valid point. But IMHO the benefit of having this independent,
>>> does not justify the churn of having a separate project with its
>>> own governance, and communication infrastructure. And I suppose for an
>>> open(?) specification, one would need those things.
>>
>> I don't see the need to bring in all that bureaucracy. The original idea
>> was simple: if QEMU/TCG or QEMU/KVM implement a hypercall (IOW: it was
>> acked by the s390x maintainers), we document it somewhere.
>>
>> Implementing something in QEMU and then modifying a KVM document in the
>> kernel tree sounded odd.
>>
>> It is a valid question to ask: what if any other hypervisor
>> (cloud-hypervisor etc.) would want to implement a custom diag500
>> hypercall, and who would ack it. But I don't really think that we would
>> have to sort this out this at this point in time.
>>
>>>
>>> No strong opinions though. If Christian, Janosch and Claudio are in
>>> favor of a separate "Specifications for open-source virtualization on
>>> s390x (IBM z Systems)" project, I'm fine with it as well.
>>
>> I'm more than happy if we don't need that. As said, I'm happy to
>> document wherever people tell me to document.
>>
>> 4 years ago we thought that having a separate repository was a good
>> idea, maybe it is no longer. In that case, s390x mainters please let me
>> know what to do :)
>>
> 
> I'd like to at least have a partial documentation in the kernel if not a
> full one. You can add a link to your repo to that.

Makes sense.

> 
> Even if they go out of sync I'd rather have documentation where I'd
> expect it (Linux) than only the repo. IMHO duplication isn't a gigantic
> issue here.

Agreed.

> 
> We also have an internal space where KVM architecture is being stored
> (currently a handful of documents) and we'll store it there as well,
> including a link to the repo.

Perfect. If there is a way to enable that repository, that would be 
great. For the time being I'll document it there as well.

Thanks!

-- 
Cheers,

David / dhildenb



      reply	other threads:[~2024-10-07 12:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-09-10 17:57 [PATCH v1 00/14] s390x: virtio-mem support David Hildenbrand
2024-09-10 17:57 ` [PATCH v1 01/14] s390x/s390-virtio-ccw: don't crash on weird RAM sizes David Hildenbrand
2024-09-11 11:28   ` Janosch Frank
2024-09-11 12:38     ` David Hildenbrand
2024-09-11 12:46       ` Thomas Huth
2024-09-11 12:54         ` David Hildenbrand
2024-09-11 11:58   ` Thomas Huth
2024-09-12 20:28   ` Eric Farman
2024-09-23  9:19   ` David Hildenbrand
2024-09-23 15:36     ` Thomas Huth
2024-09-23 15:39       ` David Hildenbrand
2024-09-10 17:57 ` [PATCH v1 02/14] s390x/s390-virtio-hcall: remove hypercall registration mechanism David Hildenbrand
2024-09-11 16:02   ` Thomas Huth
2024-09-10 17:57 ` [PATCH v1 03/14] s390x/s390-virtio-hcall: prepare for more diag500 hypercalls David Hildenbrand
2024-09-11 17:04   ` Thomas Huth
2024-09-12 13:22   ` Nina Schoetterl-Glausch
2024-09-17 10:45     ` David Hildenbrand
2024-09-17 10:50       ` David Hildenbrand
2024-09-17 11:02         ` David Hildenbrand
2024-09-17 12:59           ` Nina Schoetterl-Glausch
2024-09-10 17:57 ` [PATCH v1 04/14] s390x: rename s390-virtio-hcall* to s390-hypercall* David Hildenbrand
2024-09-11 17:05   ` Thomas Huth
2024-09-10 17:58 ` [PATCH v1 05/14] s390x/s390-virtio-ccw: move setting the maximum guest size from sclp to machine code David Hildenbrand
2024-09-12  8:07   ` Thomas Huth
2024-09-10 17:58 ` [PATCH v1 06/14] s390x: introduce s390_get_memory_limit() David Hildenbrand
2024-09-12  8:10   ` Thomas Huth
2024-09-16 13:20   ` Nina Schoetterl-Glausch
2024-09-17 11:23     ` David Hildenbrand
2024-09-17 12:48       ` Nina Schoetterl-Glausch
2024-09-23  9:20         ` David Hildenbrand
2024-09-10 17:58 ` [PATCH v1 07/14] s390x/s390-hypercall: introduce DIAG500 STORAGE_LIMIT David Hildenbrand
2024-09-12  8:19   ` Thomas Huth
2024-09-12 10:54     ` Janosch Frank
2024-09-27 18:05     ` Halil Pasic
2024-09-27 18:34       ` David Hildenbrand
2024-09-30 11:11       ` Christian Borntraeger
2024-09-30 12:57         ` Halil Pasic
2024-10-01  9:15           ` Christian Borntraeger
2024-10-01 13:31             ` Halil Pasic
2024-10-01 14:35               ` Christian Borntraeger
2024-09-30 13:13         ` David Hildenbrand
2024-09-10 17:58 ` [PATCH v1 08/14] s390x/s390-stattrib-kvm: prepare memory devices and sparse memory layouts David Hildenbrand
2024-09-10 17:58 ` [PATCH v1 09/14] s390x/s390-skeys: prepare for memory devices David Hildenbrand
2024-09-10 17:58 ` [PATCH v1 10/14] s390x/pv: check initial, not maximum RAM size David Hildenbrand
2024-09-24 16:22   ` Nina Schoetterl-Glausch
2024-09-24 20:17     ` David Hildenbrand
2024-09-26  9:04       ` David Hildenbrand
2024-09-30 11:15       ` Christian Borntraeger
2024-09-30 11:37         ` Claudio Imbrenda
2024-09-30 13:14           ` David Hildenbrand
2024-09-30 13:26             ` Claudio Imbrenda
2024-09-10 17:58 ` [PATCH v1 11/14] s390x/s390-virtio-ccw: prepare for memory devices David Hildenbrand
2024-09-10 17:58 ` [PATCH v1 12/14] s390x: introduce s390_get_max_pagesize() David Hildenbrand
2024-09-26 10:22   ` David Hildenbrand
2024-09-10 17:58 ` [PATCH v1 13/14] s390x/virtio-ccw: add support for virtio based memory devices David Hildenbrand
2024-09-10 17:58 ` [PATCH v1 14/14] s390x: virtio-mem support David Hildenbrand
2024-09-10 18:33 ` [PATCH v1 00/14] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-09-10 18:45   ` David Hildenbrand
2024-09-11 11:49 ` Janosch Frank
2024-09-11 12:28   ` David Hildenbrand
2024-09-11 14:04     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2024-09-11 15:38       ` Cornelia Huck
2024-09-11 19:09         ` David Hildenbrand
2024-09-27 18:20           ` Halil Pasic
2024-09-27 18:29             ` David Hildenbrand
2024-09-30 21:49               ` Halil Pasic
2024-10-01  8:54                 ` David Hildenbrand
2024-10-02  9:04                   ` Janosch Frank
2024-10-07 12:23                     ` David Hildenbrand [this message]

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