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([2001:b07:6468:f312:c8dd:75d4:99ab:290a]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id da9sm907799edb.84.2021.01.13.06.35.10 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 13 Jan 2021 06:35:10 -0800 (PST) To: =?UTF-8?Q?Philippe_Mathieu-Daud=c3=a9?= , Gerd Hoffmann References: <6a08e9f5-7cd7-c2c8-4b61-5466a4ffb2ec@redhat.com> <20210113100956.xuyvmxayh5xytja3@sirius.home.kraxel.org> From: Paolo Bonzini Subject: Re: minimal "zero conf" build dockerfiles for fedora:latest and alpine:latest Message-ID: <72d273d6-01ce-493e-d174-622441dae162@redhat.com> Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2021 15:35:09 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Authentication-Results: relay.mimecast.com; auth=pass smtp.auth=CUSA124A263 smtp.mailfrom=pbonzini@redhat.com X-Mimecast-Spam-Score: 0 X-Mimecast-Originator: redhat.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received-SPF: pass client-ip=216.205.24.124; envelope-from=pbonzini@redhat.com; helo=us-smtp-delivery-124.mimecast.com X-Spam_score_int: -29 X-Spam_score: -3.0 X-Spam_bar: --- X-Spam_report: (-3.0 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.25, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, NICE_REPLY_A=-0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: qemu-devel@nongnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: =?UTF-8?Q?Alex_Benn=c3=a9e?= , Thomas Huth , John Snow , QEMU Developers Errors-To: qemu-devel-bounces+qemu-devel=archiver.kernel.org@nongnu.org Sender: "Qemu-devel" On 13/01/21 11:29, Philippe Mathieu-Daudé wrote: > On 1/13/21 11:09 AM, Gerd Hoffmann wrote: >> Hi, >> >>> I don't like Perl really, but there's a chicken-and-egg problem between >>> detecting Python and using it to print the configure help script. For >>> configure-time tasks, Perl has the advantage that "#! /usr/bin/env perl" >>> just works. >> >> Assuming perl is actually installed, the world seems to shift to python. >> On a minimal fedora install python is present but perl is not ... >> >> On the other hand git depends on perl, so it is probably pretty hard to >> find a developer workstation without perl installed, so maybe that >> doesn't matter much for the time being. > > There is also the new configure-parse-buildoptions.pl script Paolo > wants to add: > https://www.mail-archive.com/qemu-devel@nongnu.org/msg770651.html > Yes, that's what I was referring to. shaderinclude.pl could be converted easily to Python, and I do support in general moving from Perl to Python. For configure-parse-buildoptions.pl I viewed Perl as more of a necessary evil. In the case of scripts/tap-driver.pl, the plan is to use "meson test" instead as soon as it becomes featureful enough. I have already switched my private branch to it, the upstream meson work is tracked at https://github.com/mesonbuild/meson/issues/7830. Paolo