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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
Cc: "Marcel Apfelbaum" <mapfelba@redhat.com>,
	"Eduardo Habkost" <ehabkost@redhat.com>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	"Richard Henderson" <richard.henderson@linaro.org>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, "Peter Xu" <peterx@redhat.com>,
	"Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>,
	"Greg Kurz" <groug@kaod.org>,
	"Stefan Hajnoczi" <stefanha@redhat.com>,
	"Murilo Opsfelder Araujo" <muriloo@linux.ibm.com>,
	"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <philmd@redhat.com>,
	"Igor Mammedov" <imammedo@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 14/15] qmp: Include "reserve" property of memory backends
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2021 13:33:20 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <79cdbd39-cf5c-a8ab-b2c9-68d8e4ab2333@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87h7jxgsa0.fsf@dusky.pond.sub.org>

On 23.04.21 13:21, Markus Armbruster wrote:
> David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com> writes:
> 
>> On 23.04.21 13:00, Markus Armbruster wrote:
>>> David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com> writes:
>>>
>>>> Let's include the new property.
>>>>
>>>> Reviewed-by: Philippe Mathieu-Daudé <philmd@redhat.com>
>>>> Cc: Eric Blake <eblake@redhat.com>
>>>> Cc: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
>>>> Cc: Igor Mammedov <imammedo@redhat.com>
>>>> Signed-off-by: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
>>>> ---
>>>>    hw/core/machine-qmp-cmds.c | 1 +
>>>>    qapi/machine.json          | 4 ++++
>>>>    2 files changed, 5 insertions(+)
>>>>
>>>> diff --git a/hw/core/machine-qmp-cmds.c b/hw/core/machine-qmp-cmds.c
>>>> index d41db5b93b..2d135ecdd0 100644
>>>> --- a/hw/core/machine-qmp-cmds.c
>>>> +++ b/hw/core/machine-qmp-cmds.c
>>>> @@ -175,6 +175,7 @@ static int query_memdev(Object *obj, void *opaque)
>>>>            m->dump = object_property_get_bool(obj, "dump", &error_abort);
>>>>            m->prealloc = object_property_get_bool(obj, "prealloc", &error_abort);
>>>>            m->share = object_property_get_bool(obj, "share", &error_abort);
>>>> +        m->reserve = object_property_get_bool(obj, "reserve", &error_abort);
>>>>            m->policy = object_property_get_enum(obj, "policy", "HostMemPolicy",
>>>>                                                 &error_abort);
>>>>            host_nodes = object_property_get_qobject(obj,
>>>> diff --git a/qapi/machine.json b/qapi/machine.json
>>>> index 32650bfe9e..5932139d20 100644
>>>> --- a/qapi/machine.json
>>>> +++ b/qapi/machine.json
>>>> @@ -798,6 +798,9 @@
>>>>    #
>>>>    # @share: whether memory is private to QEMU or shared (since 6.1)
>>>>    #
>>>> +# @reserve: whether swap space (or huge pages) was reserved if applicable
>>>> +#           (since 6.1)
>>>> +#
>>>>    # @host-nodes: host nodes for its memory policy
>>>>    #
>>>>    # @policy: memory policy of memory backend
>>>> @@ -812,6 +815,7 @@
>>>>        'dump':       'bool',
>>>>        'prealloc':   'bool',
>>>>        'share':      'bool',
>>>> +    'reserve':    'bool',
>>>>        'host-nodes': ['uint16'],
>>>>        'policy':     'HostMemPolicy' }}
>>>
>>> Double-checking: true means definitely reserved, and false means
>>> definitely not reserved.  Correct?
>>
>> True means "reserved if applicable" which means "not reserved if not
>> applicable". False means "definitely not reserved".
>>
>> (any recommendation how to rephrase are appreciated; I tried my best --
>> this interface here makes it especially hard -- it's easier for the
>> property itself)
> 
> When is it "applicable"?
> 

When the OS supports it for the memory type and it hasn't been disabled.

Linux handling as described in
   [PATCH v6 09/15] util/mmap-alloc: Support RAM_NORESERVE via
   MAP_NORESERVE under Linux
and

   https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/vm/overcommit-accounting

Summary *without* MAP_NORESERVE:

a) !Hugetlbfs with Memory overcommit disabled via
     ("/proc/sys/vm/overcommit_memory == 2"): never

b) !Hugetlbfs with Memory overcommit enabled
   1) Shared mappings on files: never

   2) Private mappings on files: only when writable (for us always)

   3) Shared anonymous memory: always

   4) Private anonymous memory: only when writable (for us always)

c) Hugetlbfs: Always


Under Windows: always. On other POSIX besides Linux -- don't know.

-- 
Thanks,

David / dhildenb



  reply	other threads:[~2021-04-23 11:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-04-21 12:26 [PATCH v6 00/15] RAM_NORESERVE, MAP_NORESERVE and hostmem "reserve" property David Hildenbrand
2021-04-21 12:26 ` [PATCH v6 01/15] util/mmap-alloc: Factor out calculation of the pagesize for the guard page David Hildenbrand
2021-04-21 12:26 ` [PATCH v6 02/15] util/mmap-alloc: Factor out reserving of a memory region to mmap_reserve() David Hildenbrand
2021-04-21 12:26 ` [PATCH v6 03/15] util/mmap-alloc: Factor out activating of memory to mmap_activate() David Hildenbrand
2021-04-21 12:26 ` [PATCH v6 04/15] softmmu/memory: Pass ram_flags to qemu_ram_alloc_from_fd() David Hildenbrand
2021-04-21 12:26 ` [PATCH v6 05/15] softmmu/memory: Pass ram_flags to memory_region_init_ram_shared_nomigrate() David Hildenbrand
2021-04-21 12:33   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2021-04-21 12:26 ` [PATCH v6 06/15] softmmu/memory: Pass ram_flags to qemu_ram_alloc() and qemu_ram_alloc_internal() David Hildenbrand
2021-04-21 12:34   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2021-04-21 12:26 ` [PATCH v6 07/15] util/mmap-alloc: Pass flags instead of separate bools to qemu_ram_mmap() David Hildenbrand
2021-04-21 12:37   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2021-04-21 12:26 ` [PATCH v6 08/15] memory: Introduce RAM_NORESERVE and wire it up in qemu_ram_mmap() David Hildenbrand
2021-04-21 12:26 ` [PATCH v6 09/15] util/mmap-alloc: Support RAM_NORESERVE via MAP_NORESERVE under Linux David Hildenbrand
2021-04-21 12:26 ` [PATCH v6 10/15] hostmem: Wire up RAM_NORESERVE via "reserve" property David Hildenbrand
2021-04-23 11:14   ` Markus Armbruster
2021-04-23 11:16     ` David Hildenbrand
2021-04-23 12:11       ` Markus Armbruster
2021-04-23 11:18     ` David Hildenbrand
2021-04-23 12:10       ` Markus Armbruster
2021-04-23 14:21         ` David Hildenbrand
2021-04-23 14:53           ` Markus Armbruster
2021-04-21 12:26 ` [PATCH v6 11/15] qmp: Clarify memory backend properties returned via query-memdev David Hildenbrand
2021-04-21 21:00   ` Eduardo Habkost
2021-04-23 10:55   ` Markus Armbruster
2021-04-21 12:26 ` [PATCH v6 12/15] qmp: Include "share" property of memory backends David Hildenbrand
2021-04-21 21:01   ` Eduardo Habkost
2021-04-23 11:15   ` Markus Armbruster
2021-04-21 12:26 ` [PATCH v6 13/15] hmp: Print "share" property of memory backends with "info memdev" David Hildenbrand
2021-04-21 21:04   ` Eduardo Habkost
2021-04-23 11:15   ` Markus Armbruster
2021-04-21 12:26 ` [PATCH v6 14/15] qmp: Include "reserve" property of memory backends David Hildenbrand
2021-04-21 21:05   ` Eduardo Habkost
2021-04-23 11:00   ` Markus Armbruster
2021-04-23 11:03     ` David Hildenbrand
2021-04-23 11:21       ` Markus Armbruster
2021-04-23 11:33         ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2021-04-23 12:13           ` Markus Armbruster
2021-04-23 12:29             ` David Hildenbrand
2021-04-23 14:13               ` David Hildenbrand
2021-04-23 14:55                 ` Markus Armbruster
2021-04-23 15:04                   ` David Hildenbrand
2021-04-21 12:26 ` [PATCH v6 15/15] hmp: Print "reserve" property of memory backends with "info memdev" David Hildenbrand
2021-04-21 21:05   ` Eduardo Habkost
2021-04-23 11:16   ` Markus Armbruster
2021-04-21 21:06 ` [PATCH v6 00/15] RAM_NORESERVE, MAP_NORESERVE and hostmem "reserve" property Eduardo Habkost
2021-04-23 10:35   ` David Hildenbrand
2021-04-28 16:35     ` Eduardo Habkost

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