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From: "Cédric Le Goater" <clg@redhat.com>
To: peterx@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Cc: "Michael S . Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
	Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>, Bandan Das <bdas@redhat.com>,
	Prasad Pandit <ppandit@redhat.com>,
	Fabiano Rosas <farosas@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 05/10] docs/migration: Split "Debugging" and "Firmware"
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2024 08:04:22 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7a561c8e-300f-465c-9bcb-91b644a9a7b8@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240109064628.595453-6-peterx@redhat.com>

On 1/9/24 07:46, peterx@redhat.com wrote:
> From: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
> 
> Move the two sections into a separate file called "best-practises.rst".
> Add the entry into index.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>


Reviewed-by: Cédric Le Goater <clg@redhat.com>

Thanks,

C.


> ---
>   docs/devel/migration/best-practises.rst | 48 +++++++++++++++++++++++++
>   docs/devel/migration/index.rst          |  1 +
>   docs/devel/migration/main.rst           | 44 -----------------------
>   3 files changed, 49 insertions(+), 44 deletions(-)
>   create mode 100644 docs/devel/migration/best-practises.rst
> 
> diff --git a/docs/devel/migration/best-practises.rst b/docs/devel/migration/best-practises.rst
> new file mode 100644
> index 0000000000..ba122ae417
> --- /dev/null
> +++ b/docs/devel/migration/best-practises.rst
> @@ -0,0 +1,48 @@
> +==============
> +Best practises
> +==============
> +
> +Debugging
> +=========
> +
> +The migration stream can be analyzed thanks to ``scripts/analyze-migration.py``.
> +
> +Example usage:
> +
> +.. code-block:: shell
> +
> +  $ qemu-system-x86_64 -display none -monitor stdio
> +  (qemu) migrate "exec:cat > mig"
> +  (qemu) q
> +  $ ./scripts/analyze-migration.py -f mig
> +  {
> +    "ram (3)": {
> +        "section sizes": {
> +            "pc.ram": "0x0000000008000000",
> +  ...
> +
> +See also ``analyze-migration.py -h`` help for more options.
> +
> +Firmware
> +========
> +
> +Migration migrates the copies of RAM and ROM, and thus when running
> +on the destination it includes the firmware from the source. Even after
> +resetting a VM, the old firmware is used.  Only once QEMU has been restarted
> +is the new firmware in use.
> +
> +- Changes in firmware size can cause changes in the required RAMBlock size
> +  to hold the firmware and thus migration can fail.  In practice it's best
> +  to pad firmware images to convenient powers of 2 with plenty of space
> +  for growth.
> +
> +- Care should be taken with device emulation code so that newer
> +  emulation code can work with older firmware to allow forward migration.
> +
> +- Care should be taken with newer firmware so that backward migration
> +  to older systems with older device emulation code will work.
> +
> +In some cases it may be best to tie specific firmware versions to specific
> +versioned machine types to cut down on the combinations that will need
> +support.  This is also useful when newer versions of firmware outgrow
> +the padding.
> diff --git a/docs/devel/migration/index.rst b/docs/devel/migration/index.rst
> index 7fc02b9520..c09623b38f 100644
> --- a/docs/devel/migration/index.rst
> +++ b/docs/devel/migration/index.rst
> @@ -11,3 +11,4 @@ QEMU live migration works.
>      compatibility
>      vfio
>      virtio
> +   best-practises
> diff --git a/docs/devel/migration/main.rst b/docs/devel/migration/main.rst
> index b3e31bb52f..97811ce371 100644
> --- a/docs/devel/migration/main.rst
> +++ b/docs/devel/migration/main.rst
> @@ -52,27 +52,6 @@ All these migration protocols use the same infrastructure to
>   save/restore state devices.  This infrastructure is shared with the
>   savevm/loadvm functionality.
>   
> -Debugging
> -=========
> -
> -The migration stream can be analyzed thanks to ``scripts/analyze-migration.py``.
> -
> -Example usage:
> -
> -.. code-block:: shell
> -
> -  $ qemu-system-x86_64 -display none -monitor stdio
> -  (qemu) migrate "exec:cat > mig"
> -  (qemu) q
> -  $ ./scripts/analyze-migration.py -f mig
> -  {
> -    "ram (3)": {
> -        "section sizes": {
> -            "pc.ram": "0x0000000008000000",
> -  ...
> -
> -See also ``analyze-migration.py -h`` help for more options.
> -
>   Common infrastructure
>   =====================
>   
> @@ -970,26 +949,3 @@ the background migration channel.  Anyone who cares about latencies of page
>   faults during a postcopy migration should enable this feature.  By default,
>   it's not enabled.
>   
> -Firmware
> -========
> -
> -Migration migrates the copies of RAM and ROM, and thus when running
> -on the destination it includes the firmware from the source. Even after
> -resetting a VM, the old firmware is used.  Only once QEMU has been restarted
> -is the new firmware in use.
> -
> -- Changes in firmware size can cause changes in the required RAMBlock size
> -  to hold the firmware and thus migration can fail.  In practice it's best
> -  to pad firmware images to convenient powers of 2 with plenty of space
> -  for growth.
> -
> -- Care should be taken with device emulation code so that newer
> -  emulation code can work with older firmware to allow forward migration.
> -
> -- Care should be taken with newer firmware so that backward migration
> -  to older systems with older device emulation code will work.
> -
> -In some cases it may be best to tie specific firmware versions to specific
> -versioned machine types to cut down on the combinations that will need
> -support.  This is also useful when newer versions of firmware outgrow
> -the padding.



  reply	other threads:[~2024-01-09  7:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-01-09  6:46 [PATCH 00/10] docs/migration: Reorganize migration documentations peterx
2024-01-09  6:46 ` [PATCH 01/10] docs/migration: Create migration/ directory peterx
2024-01-09  6:52   ` Cédric Le Goater
2024-01-09  6:46 ` [PATCH 02/10] docs/migration: Create index page peterx
2024-01-09  6:53   ` Cédric Le Goater
2024-01-09  6:46 ` [PATCH 03/10] docs/migration: Convert virtio.txt into rST peterx
2024-01-09  7:02   ` Cédric Le Goater
2024-01-09  6:46 ` [PATCH 04/10] docs/migration: Split "Backwards compatibility" separately peterx
2024-01-09  7:03   ` Cédric Le Goater
2024-01-09  6:46 ` [PATCH 05/10] docs/migration: Split "Debugging" and "Firmware" peterx
2024-01-09  7:04   ` Cédric Le Goater [this message]
2024-01-09 17:03   ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-01-10  2:10     ` Peter Xu
2024-01-09  6:46 ` [PATCH 06/10] docs/migration: Split "Postcopy" peterx
2024-01-09  7:05   ` Cédric Le Goater
2024-01-09  6:46 ` [PATCH 07/10] docs/migration: Split "dirty limit" peterx
2024-01-09  7:06   ` Cédric Le Goater
2024-01-09  6:46 ` [PATCH 08/10] docs/migration: Organize "Postcopy" page peterx
2024-01-09  7:20   ` Cédric Le Goater
2024-01-09  6:46 ` [PATCH 09/10] docs/migration: Further move vfio to be feature of migration peterx
2024-01-09  7:20   ` Cédric Le Goater
2024-01-09  6:46 ` [PATCH 10/10] docs/migration: Further move virtio " peterx
2024-01-09  7:20   ` Cédric Le Goater
2024-01-09 10:49 ` [PATCH 00/10] docs/migration: Reorganize migration documentations Peter Xu
2024-01-09 13:21   ` Cédric Le Goater
2024-01-10  2:37     ` Peter Xu
2024-01-10 15:21       ` Cédric Le Goater
2024-01-11  2:42         ` Peter Xu
2024-01-11  6:20 ` Peter Xu

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