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From: Nina Schoetterl-Glausch <nsg@linux.ibm.com>
To: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Prasad Pandit <ppandit@redhat.com>,
	Fabiano Rosas <farosas@suse.de>, Bandan Das <bdas@redhat.com>,
	Julia Suvorova <jusual@redhat.com>,
	Thomas Huth <thuth@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] migration: Drop unnecessary check in ram's pending_exact()
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2024 20:21:30 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7c1f0248465d55ff804c32ed7bb366d4a03abdec.camel@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZfsxjS4Phkf34f4J@x1n>

On Wed, 2024-03-20 at 14:57 -0400, Peter Xu wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 20, 2024 at 06:51:26PM +0100, Nina Schoetterl-Glausch wrote:
> > On Wed, 2024-01-17 at 15:58 +0800, peterx@redhat.com wrote:
> > > From: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
> > > 
> > > When the migration frameworks fetches the exact pending sizes, it means
> > > this check:
> > > 
> > >   remaining_size < s->threshold_size
> > > 
> > > Must have been done already, actually at migration_iteration_run():
> > > 
> > >     if (must_precopy <= s->threshold_size) {
> > >         qemu_savevm_state_pending_exact(&must_precopy, &can_postcopy);
> > > 
> > > That should be after one round of ram_state_pending_estimate().  It makes
> > > the 2nd check meaningless and can be dropped.
> > > 
> > > To say it in another way, when reaching ->state_pending_exact(), we
> > > unconditionally sync dirty bits for precopy.
> > > 
> > > Then we can drop migrate_get_current() there too.
> > > 
> > > Signed-off-by: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
> > 
> > Hi Peter,
> 
> Hi, Nina,
> 
> > 
> > could you have a look at this issue:
> > https://gitlab.com/qemu-project/qemu/-/issues/1565
> > 
> > which I reopened. Previous thread here:
> > 
> > https://lore.kernel.org/qemu-devel/20230324184129.3119575-1-nsg@linux.ibm.com/
> > 
> > I'm seeing migration failures with s390x TCG again, which look the same to me
> > as those a while back.
> 
> I'm still quite confused how that could be caused of this.
> 
> What you described in the previous bug report seems to imply some page was
> leftover in migration so some page got corrupted after migrated.
> 
> However what this patch mostly does is it can sync more than before even if
> I overlooked the condition check there (I still think the check is
> redundant, there's one outlier when remaining_size == threshold_size, but I
> don't think it should matter here as of now).  It'll make more sense if
> this patch made the sync less, but that's not the case but vice versa.

[...]

> In the previous discussion, you mentioned that you bisected to the commit
> and also verified the fix.  Now you also mentioned in the bz that you can't
> reporduce this bug manually.
> 
> Is it still possible to be reproduced with some scripts?  Do you also mean
> that it's harder to reproduce comparing to before?  In all cases, some way
> to reproduce it would definitely be helpful.

I tried running the kvm-unit-test a bunch of times in a loop and couldn't
trigger a failure. I just tried again on a different system and managed just
fine, yay. No idea why it wouldn't on the first system tho.
> 
> Even if we want to revert this change, we'll need to know whether this will
> fix your case so we need something to verify it before a revert.  I'll
> consider that the last though as I had a feeling this is papering over
> something else.

I can check if I can reproduce the issue before & after b0504edd ("migration:
Drop unnecessary check in ram's pending_exact()").
I can also check if I can reproduce it on x86, that worked last time.
Anything else? Ideas on how to pinpoint where the corruption happens?

> 
> Thanks,
> 



  reply	other threads:[~2024-03-20 19:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-01-17  7:58 [PATCH 0/3] migration: some small cleanups peterx
2024-01-17  7:58 ` [PATCH 1/3] migration: Make threshold_size an uint64_t peterx
2024-01-17  8:09   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2024-01-19 13:26   ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-01-17  7:58 ` [PATCH 2/3] migration: Drop unnecessary check in ram's pending_exact() peterx
2024-01-19 13:25   ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-03-20 17:51   ` Nina Schoetterl-Glausch
2024-03-20 18:05     ` Nina Schoetterl-Glausch
2024-03-20 18:57     ` Peter Xu
2024-03-20 19:21       ` Nina Schoetterl-Glausch [this message]
2024-03-20 19:46         ` Peter Xu
2024-03-20 20:45           ` Peter Xu
2024-01-17  7:58 ` [PATCH 3/3] analyze-migration.py: Remove trick on parsing ramblocks peterx
2024-01-19 13:23   ` Fabiano Rosas
2024-01-20  2:36 ` [PATCH 0/3] migration: some small cleanups Peter Xu

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