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From: Claudio Fontana <cfontana@suse.de>
To: "Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>,
	"Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>
Cc: libvir-list@redhat.com, qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>
Subject: Re: [libvirt RFC] virFile: new VIR_FILE_WRAPPER_BIG_PIPE to improve performance
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2022 11:12:11 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7c641d9d-fffa-e21b-7ae2-12ad35c0c238@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2d1248d4-ebdf-43f9-e4a7-95f586aade8e@suse.de>

On 3/16/22 1:17 PM, Claudio Fontana wrote:
> On 3/14/22 6:48 PM, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
>> On Mon, Mar 14, 2022 at 06:38:31PM +0100, Claudio Fontana wrote:
>>> On 3/14/22 6:17 PM, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
>>>> On Sat, Mar 12, 2022 at 05:30:01PM +0100, Claudio Fontana wrote:
>>>>> the first user is the qemu driver,
>>>>>
>>>>> virsh save/resume would slow to a crawl with a default pipe size (64k).
>>>>>
>>>>> This improves the situation by 400%.
>>>>>
>>>>> Going through io_helper still seems to incur in some penalty (~15%-ish)
>>>>> compared with direct qemu migration to a nc socket to a file.
>>>>>
>>>>> Signed-off-by: Claudio Fontana <cfontana@suse.de>
>>>>> ---
>>>>>  src/qemu/qemu_driver.c    |  6 +++---
>>>>>  src/qemu/qemu_saveimage.c | 11 ++++++-----
>>>>>  src/util/virfile.c        | 12 ++++++++++++
>>>>>  src/util/virfile.h        |  1 +
>>>>>  4 files changed, 22 insertions(+), 8 deletions(-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello, I initially thought this to be a qemu performance issue,
>>>>> so you can find the discussion about this in qemu-devel:
>>>>>
>>>>> "Re: bad virsh save /dev/null performance (600 MiB/s max)"
>>>>>
>>>>> https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/qemu-devel/2022-03/msg03142.html
>>>>>
>>>>> RFC since need to validate idea, and it is only lightly tested:
>>>>>
>>>>> save     - about 400% benefit in throughput, getting around 20 Gbps to /dev/null,
>>>>>            and around 13 Gbps to a ramdisk.
>>>>> 	   By comparison, direct qemu migration to a nc socket is around 24Gbps.
>>>>>
>>>>> restore  - not tested, _should_ also benefit in the "bypass_cache" case
>>>>> coredump - not tested, _should_ also benefit like for save
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for your comments and review,
>>>>>
>>>>> Claudio
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> diff --git a/src/qemu/qemu_driver.c b/src/qemu/qemu_driver.c
>>>>> index c1b3bd8536..be248c1e92 100644
>>>>> --- a/src/qemu/qemu_driver.c
>>>>> +++ b/src/qemu/qemu_driver.c
>>>>> @@ -3044,7 +3044,7 @@ doCoreDump(virQEMUDriver *driver,
>>>>>      virFileWrapperFd *wrapperFd = NULL;
>>>>>      int directFlag = 0;
>>>>>      bool needUnlink = false;
>>>>> -    unsigned int flags = VIR_FILE_WRAPPER_NON_BLOCKING;
>>>>> +    unsigned int wrapperFlags = VIR_FILE_WRAPPER_NON_BLOCKING | VIR_FILE_WRAPPER_BIG_PIPE;
>>>>>      const char *memory_dump_format = NULL;
>>>>>      g_autoptr(virQEMUDriverConfig) cfg = virQEMUDriverGetConfig(driver);
>>>>>      g_autoptr(virCommand) compressor = NULL;
>>>>> @@ -3059,7 +3059,7 @@ doCoreDump(virQEMUDriver *driver,
>>>>>  
>>>>>      /* Create an empty file with appropriate ownership.  */
>>>>>      if (dump_flags & VIR_DUMP_BYPASS_CACHE) {
>>>>> -        flags |= VIR_FILE_WRAPPER_BYPASS_CACHE;
>>>>> +        wrapperFlags |= VIR_FILE_WRAPPER_BYPASS_CACHE;
>>>>>          directFlag = virFileDirectFdFlag();
>>>>>          if (directFlag < 0) {
>>>>>              virReportError(VIR_ERR_OPERATION_FAILED, "%s",
>>>>> @@ -3072,7 +3072,7 @@ doCoreDump(virQEMUDriver *driver,
>>>>>                               &needUnlink)) < 0)
>>>>>          goto cleanup;
>>>>>  
>>>>> -    if (!(wrapperFd = virFileWrapperFdNew(&fd, path, flags)))
>>>>> +    if (!(wrapperFd = virFileWrapperFdNew(&fd, path, wrapperFlags)))
>>>>>          goto cleanup;
>>>>>  
>>>>>      if (dump_flags & VIR_DUMP_MEMORY_ONLY) {
>>>>> diff --git a/src/qemu/qemu_saveimage.c b/src/qemu/qemu_saveimage.c
>>>>> index c0139041eb..1b522a1542 100644
>>>>> --- a/src/qemu/qemu_saveimage.c
>>>>> +++ b/src/qemu/qemu_saveimage.c
>>>>> @@ -267,7 +267,7 @@ qemuSaveImageCreate(virQEMUDriver *driver,
>>>>>      int fd = -1;
>>>>>      int directFlag = 0;
>>>>>      virFileWrapperFd *wrapperFd = NULL;
>>>>> -    unsigned int wrapperFlags = VIR_FILE_WRAPPER_NON_BLOCKING;
>>>>> +    unsigned int wrapperFlags = VIR_FILE_WRAPPER_NON_BLOCKING | VIR_FILE_WRAPPER_BIG_PIPE;
>>>>>  
>>>>>      /* Obtain the file handle.  */
>>>>>      if ((flags & VIR_DOMAIN_SAVE_BYPASS_CACHE)) {
>>>>> @@ -463,10 +463,11 @@ qemuSaveImageOpen(virQEMUDriver *driver,
>>>>>      if ((fd = qemuDomainOpenFile(cfg, NULL, path, oflags, NULL)) < 0)
>>>>>          return -1;
>>>>>  
>>>>> -    if (bypass_cache &&
>>>>> -        !(*wrapperFd = virFileWrapperFdNew(&fd, path,
>>>>> -                                           VIR_FILE_WRAPPER_BYPASS_CACHE)))
>>>>> -        return -1;
>>>>> +    if (bypass_cache) {
>>>>> +        unsigned int wrapperFlags = VIR_FILE_WRAPPER_BYPASS_CACHE | VIR_FILE_WRAPPER_BIG_PIPE;
>>>>> +        if (!(*wrapperFd = virFileWrapperFdNew(&fd, path, wrapperFlags)))
>>>>> +            return -1;
>>>>> +    }
>>>>>  
>>>>>      data = g_new0(virQEMUSaveData, 1);
>>>>>  
>>>>> diff --git a/src/util/virfile.c b/src/util/virfile.c
>>>>> index a04f888e06..fdacd17890 100644
>>>>> --- a/src/util/virfile.c
>>>>> +++ b/src/util/virfile.c
>>>>> @@ -282,6 +282,18 @@ virFileWrapperFdNew(int *fd, const char *name, unsigned int flags)
>>>>>  
>>>>>      ret->cmd = virCommandNewArgList(iohelper_path, name, NULL);
>>>>>  
>>>>> +    if (flags & VIR_FILE_WRAPPER_BIG_PIPE) {
>>>>> +        /*
>>>>> +         * virsh save/resume would slow to a crawl with a default pipe size (usually 64k).
>>>>> +         * This improves the situation by 400%, although going through io_helper still incurs
>>>>> +         * in a performance penalty compared with a direct qemu migration to a socket.
>>>>> +         */
>>>>> +        int pipe_sz, rv = virFileReadValueInt(&pipe_sz, "/proc/sys/fs/pipe-max-size");
>>>>
>>>> This is fine as an experiment but I don't think it is that safe
>>>> to use in the real world. There could be a variety of reasons why
>>>> an admin can enlarge this value, and we shouldn't assume the max
>>>> size is sensible for libvirt/QEMU to use.
>>>>
>>>> I very much suspect there are diminishing returns here in terms
>>>> of buffer sizes.
>>>>
>>>> 64k is obvious too small, but 1 MB, may be sufficiently large
>>>> that the bottleneck is then elsewhere in our code. IOW, If the
>>>> pipe max size is 100 MB, we shouldn't blindly use it. Can you
>>>> do a few tests with varying sizes to see where a sensible
>>>> tradeoff falls ?
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Daniel,
>>>
>>> this is a very good point. Actually I see very diminishing returns after the default pipe-max-size (1MB).
>>>
>>> The idea was that beyond allowing larger size, the admin could have set a _smaller_ pipe-max-size,
>>> so we want to use that in that case, otherwise an attempt to use 1MB would result in EPERM, if the process does not have CAP_SYS_RESOURCE or CAP_SYS_ADMIN.
>>> I am not sure if used with Kubevirt, for example, CAP_SYS_RESOURCE or CAP_SYS_ADMIN would be available...?
>>>
>>> So maybe one idea could be to use the minimum between /proc/sys/fs/pipe-max-size and for example 1MB, but will do more testing to see where the actual break point is.
>>
>> That's reasonable.
>>
> 
> Just as an update: still running tests with various combinations, and larger VMs (to RAM, to slow disk, and now to nvme).
> 
> For now no clear winner yet. There seems to be a significant benefit already going from 1MB (my previous default) to 2MB,
> but anything more than 16MB seems to not improve anything at all.
> 
> But I just need to do more testing, more runs.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Claudio
> 

Current results show these experimental averages maximum throughput migrating to /dev/null per each FdWrapper Pipe Size (as per QEMU QMP "query-migrate", tests repeated 5 times for each).
VM Size is 60G, most of the memory effectively touched before migration, through user application allocating and touching all memory with pseudorandom data.

64K:     5200 Mbps (current situation)
128K:    5800 Mbps
256K:   20900 Mbps
512K:   21600 Mbps
1M:     22800 Mbps
2M:     22800 Mbps
4M:     22400 Mbps
8M:     22500 Mbps
16M:    22800 Mbps
32M:    22900 Mbps
64M:    22900 Mbps
128M:   22800 Mbps

This above is the throughput out of patched libvirt with multiple Pipe Sizes for the FDWrapper.

As for the theoretical limit for the libvirt architecture,
I ran a qemu migration directly issuing the appropriate QMP commands, setting the same migration parameters as per libvirt, and then migrating to a socket netcatted to /dev/null via
{"execute": "migrate", "arguments": { "uri", "unix:///tmp/netcat.sock" } } : 

QMP:    37000 Mbps

---

So although the Pipe size improves things (in particular the large jump is for the 256K size, although 1M seems a very good value),
there is still a second bottleneck in there somewhere that accounts for a loss of ~14200 Mbps in throughput.

Thanks,

Claudio






       reply	other threads:[~2022-03-17 10:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20220312163001.3811-1-cfontana@suse.de>
     [not found] ` <Yi94mQUfrxMVbiLM@redhat.com>
     [not found]   ` <34eb53b5-78f7-3814-b71e-aa7ac59f9d25@suse.de>
     [not found]     ` <Yi+ACeaZ+oXTVYjc@redhat.com>
     [not found]       ` <2d1248d4-ebdf-43f9-e4a7-95f586aade8e@suse.de>
2022-03-17 10:12         ` Claudio Fontana [this message]
2022-03-17 10:25           ` [libvirt RFC] virFile: new VIR_FILE_WRAPPER_BIG_PIPE to improve performance Daniel P. Berrangé
2022-03-17 13:41             ` Claudio Fontana
2022-03-17 14:14               ` Claudio Fontana
2022-03-17 15:03                 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2022-03-18 13:34                   ` Claudio Fontana
2022-03-21  7:55                     ` Andrea Righi
2022-03-25  9:56                       ` Claudio Fontana
2022-03-25 10:33                     ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2022-03-25 10:56                       ` Claudio Fontana
2022-03-25 11:14                         ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2022-03-25 11:16                           ` Claudio Fontana
2022-04-10 19:58                       ` Claudio Fontana
2022-03-25 11:29                     ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2022-03-26 15:49                       ` Claudio Fontana
2022-03-26 17:38                         ` Claudio Fontana
2022-03-28  8:31                         ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2022-03-28  9:19                           ` Claudio Fontana
2022-03-28  9:41                             ` Claudio Fontana
2022-03-28  9:31                           ` Claudio Fontana
2022-04-05  8:35                             ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2022-04-05  9:23                               ` Claudio Fontana
2022-04-07  7:11                               ` Claudio Fontana
2022-04-07 13:53                                 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2022-04-07 13:57                                   ` Claudio Fontana
2022-04-11 18:21                                     ` Claudio Fontana
2022-04-11 18:53                                       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2022-04-12  9:04                                         ` Claudio Fontana
2022-03-28 10:47                         ` Claudio Fontana
2022-03-28 13:28                           ` Claudio Fontana

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