From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>
Cc: fam@euphon.net, zhang.zhanghailiang@huawei.com,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, qemu-stable@nongnu.org,
qemu-arm@nongnu.org, Ying Fang <fangying1@huawei.com>,
wu.wubin@huawei.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] util/async: Add memory barrier to aio_ctx_prepare
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2020 11:59:06 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <7de4d886-d861-5c80-f669-098b730906c8@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200402093221.GD28280@stefanha-x1.localdomain>
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On 02/04/20 11:32, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
> Paolo, I'm not sure how to interpret this case according to
> docs/devel/atomics.txt. Maybe you can clarify.
>
> atomic_or() is sequentially consistent and I therefore expected it to
> act as a barrier. Or does sequential consistency only cover the memory
> accessed via the sequentially consistent atomics APIs and everything
> else (like aio_compute_timeout()) can be reordered?
Yes, that's what I expected too when I wrote that code. :( But Torvald
Riegel explained a while ago that seq-cst accesses are actually weaker
than e.g. the Linux kernel atomics[1].
The difference basically only matters if you are writing the relatively
common synchronization pattern
write A write B
smp_mb() smp_mb()
read B read A
if not B then sleep if A then wake up the other side
do something
because you must either use memory barriers as above, or use seq-cst
writes *and* reads. You cannot rely on having a memory barrier implicit
in the writes.
Paolo
[1] https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/qemu-arm/2019-10/msg00051.html
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Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-04-02 2:44 [PATCH v2] util/async: Add memory barrier to aio_ctx_prepare Ying Fang
2020-04-02 8:47 ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-04-02 9:32 ` Ying Fang
2020-04-02 9:32 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2020-04-02 9:59 ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2020-04-03 10:10 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
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