From: Het Gala <het.gala@nutanix.com>
To: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
Cc: "Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, prerna.saxena@nutanix.com,
quintela@redhat.com, dgilbert@redhat.com, pbonzini@redhat.com,
eblake@redhat.com, manish.mishra@nutanix.com,
aravind.retnakaran@nutanix.com
Subject: Re: QAPI unions as branches / unifying struct and union types
Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2023 16:48:59 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <7eba90f1-b28e-650b-e3ae-9c8e64c29d77@nutanix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87v8k4lfgj.fsf@pond.sub.org>
On 14/02/23 3:46 pm, Markus Armbruster wrote:
> Het Gala <het.gala@nutanix.com> writes:
>
>> On 10/02/23 12:54 pm, Markus Armbruster wrote:
>>> Daniel P. Berrangé <berrange@redhat.com> writes:
>>>
>>> [...]
>>>
>>>>> +##
>>>>> +# @MigrateAddress:
>>>>> +#
>>>>> +# The options available for communication transport mechanisms for migration
>>>>> +#
>>>>> +# Since 8.0
>>>>> +##
>>>>> +{ 'union' : 'MigrateAddress',
>>>>> + 'base' : { 'transport' : 'MigrateTransport'},
>>>>> + 'discriminator' : 'transport',
>>>>> + 'data' : {
>>>>> + 'socket' : 'MigrateSocketAddr',
>>>>> + 'exec' : 'MigrateExecAddr',
>>>>> + 'rdma': 'MigrateRdmaAddr' } }
>>>> Ideally this would be
>>>>
>>>> 'data' : {
>>>> 'socket' : 'SocketAddress',
>>>> 'exec' : 'MigrateCommand',
>>>> 'rdma': 'InetSocketAddress' } }
>>>>
>>>> though the first SocketAddress isn't possible unless it is easy to
>>>> lift the QAPI limitation.
>>> Context: SocketAddress is a QAPI union, and "the QAPI limitation" is
>>>
>>> scripts/qapi-gen.py: In file included from ../qapi/qapi-schema.json:79:
>>> ../qapi/migration.json: In union 'MigrateAddress':
>>> ../qapi/migration.json:1505: branch 'socket' cannot use union type 'SocketAddress'
>>>
>>> Emitted by schema.py like this:
>>>
>>> if (not isinstance(v.type, QAPISchemaObjectType)
>>> or v.type.variants):
>>> raise QAPISemError(
>>> self.info,
>>> "%s cannot use %s"
>>> % (v.describe(self.info), v.type.describe()))
>>>
>>> This enforces docs/devel/qapi-code-gen.rst's clause
>>>
>>> The BRANCH's value defines the branch's properties, in particular its
>>> type. The type must a struct type. [...]
>>>
>>> Next paragraph:
>>>
>>> In the Client JSON Protocol, a union is represented by an object with
>>> the common members (from the base type) and the selected branch's
>>> members. The two sets of member names must be disjoint.
>>>
>>> So, we're splicing in the members of the branch's JSON object. For that
>>> to even make sense, the branch type needs to map to a JSON object. This
>>> is fundamental. It's the first part of the condition in the code
>>> snippet above.
>>>
>>> We have two kinds of QAPI types that map to a JSON object: struct and
>>> union. The second part of the condition restricts to struct. Unless
>>> I'm missing something (imperfect memory...), this is *not* fundamental,
>>> just a matter of implementing it. But I'd have to try to be sure.
>>>
>>>
>>> Instead of simply allowing unions in addition to structs here, I'd like
>>> to go one step further, and fuse the two into "objects". Let me
>>> explain.
>>>
>>> If we abstract from syntax, structs have become almost a special kind of
>>> union. Unions have a set of common members and sets of variant members,
>>> and a special common member (the tag) selects the set of variant
>>> members. Structs are unions with zero variants and no tag.
>>>
>>> The generator code actually represents both structs and unions as a
>>> common QAPISchemaObjectType already. QAPI/QMP introspection does the
>>> same: it uses a single meta type 'object' for both.
>>>
>>>
>>> There is another spot where only structs are allowed: a struct or
>>> union's base type. That restriction will be awkward to lift, as I made
>>> the mistake of baking the assumption "object type has at most one tag
>>> member" into QAPI/QMP introspection .
>> Hi Markus, thankyou for explaning in such detail. I tried to understand of what you explained.
>>
>> So IIUC, you mentioned the QAPI generator treats both structs and unions same, but basically in the schema.py checks is where it tries to distinguish between the two ? and because of the fact that docs/devel/qapi-code-gen.rst states that for a union, it's branches must be 'struct', and that's the reason it gives an error ?
> Permit me a brief digression into history.
>
> The initial QAPI design language provided product types (structs) and
> sum types (unions containing exactly one of several types, and a tag
> member that tells which one). The two are orthogonal.
>
> These unions turned out rather awkward.
>
> The unions we have today are more general. They have common members,
> and one of them is the tag member, of enumeration type. For each tag
> value, they have variant members. Both the common members and each tag
> value's variant members are given as struct types.
>
> What if the tag's enumeration type is empty, i.e. has no values? We get
> a union with no variant members, only common ones. Isn't that a struct?
>
> Not quite. To get a struct, we also have to drop the tag member. It
> has no possible values anyway.
>
> You see, struct types are almost a special case of today's union types.
> To overcome "almost", we can introduce the notion of "object type":
>
> * An object type has common members, one of them can be a tag member, of
> enumeration type, not empty. For each tag value, it additionally has
> variant members.
>
> * A union type is an object type with a tag member and variant members.
>
> * A struct type is an object type without tag member and variant
> members.
>
> The QAPI generator code already made the jump to this object type
> notion. It transform the special cases into the general case at first
> opportunity, in QAPISchema._def_struct_type() and ._def_union_type().
>
> *Except* we haven't implemented support for variant members in a few
> places where they cannot occur now, e.g. as a tag value's variant. This
> is the restriction you ran into.
>
> I'd like to make the jump to object type in the QAPI schema language,
> too. But that's not a prerequisite to lifting the restriction.
>
>> If that's the case, can we improve on our checks and allow union as a part of branch of a union ? or something else ?
> I believe we can implement the missing parts and relax the checks. But
> to be sure, we need to try.
>
>> or I may have completely misunderstood most of the part 😅. Please let me know
> More questions?
Completely understood everything. Thankyou for the wonderful
explanation. Looking forward to implement the missing parts in QAPI
schema language.
Regards,
Het Gala
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-02-17 11:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-02-08 9:35 [PATCH v2 0/6] migration: Modified 'migrate' QAPI command for migration Het Gala
2023-02-08 9:35 ` [PATCH v2 1/6] migration: moved hmp_split_at_commma() helper func to qapi-util.c file Het Gala
2023-02-09 12:00 ` Markus Armbruster
2023-02-09 12:12 ` Juan Quintela
2023-02-09 13:58 ` Het Gala
2023-02-09 16:19 ` Markus Armbruster
2023-02-09 13:28 ` Het Gala
2023-02-09 12:02 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-02-09 13:30 ` Het Gala
2023-02-08 9:35 ` [PATCH v2 2/6] migration: Updated QAPI format for 'migrate' qemu monitor command Het Gala
2023-02-08 20:17 ` Eric Blake
2023-02-09 7:57 ` Het Gala
2023-02-09 10:23 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-02-09 13:00 ` Het Gala
2023-02-09 13:38 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-02-10 6:37 ` Het Gala
2023-02-10 10:31 ` Markus Armbruster
2023-02-09 16:26 ` Markus Armbruster
2023-02-10 6:15 ` Het Gala
2023-02-09 10:29 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-02-09 13:11 ` Het Gala
2023-02-09 13:22 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-02-10 8:24 ` Het Gala
2023-02-10 7:24 ` QAPI unions as branches / unifying struct and union types (was: [PATCH v2 2/6] migration: Updated QAPI format for 'migrate' qemu monitor command) Markus Armbruster
2023-02-10 13:28 ` Het Gala
2023-02-14 10:16 ` QAPI unions as branches / unifying struct and union types Markus Armbruster
2023-02-17 11:18 ` Het Gala [this message]
2023-02-17 11:55 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-02-21 9:17 ` Het Gala
2023-02-08 9:35 ` [PATCH v2 3/6] migration: HMP side changes for modified 'migrate' QAPI design Het Gala
2023-02-09 12:05 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-02-09 13:38 ` Het Gala
2023-02-09 14:00 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-02-10 6:44 ` Het Gala
2023-02-08 9:35 ` [PATCH v2 4/6] migration: Avoid multiple parsing of uri in migration code flow Het Gala
2023-02-09 10:40 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-02-09 13:21 ` Het Gala
2023-02-09 12:09 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-02-09 13:54 ` Het Gala
2023-02-09 14:06 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-02-10 7:03 ` Het Gala
2023-02-08 9:35 ` [PATCH v2 5/6] migration: Modified 'migrate-incoming' QAPI and HMP side changes on the destination interface Het Gala
2023-02-08 20:19 ` Eric Blake
2023-02-09 7:59 ` Het Gala
2023-02-09 10:31 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-02-09 13:14 ` Het Gala
2023-02-09 13:25 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2023-02-08 9:36 ` [PATCH v2 6/6] migration: Established connection for listener sockets on the dest interface Het Gala
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