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From: Daniele Buono <dbuono@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: "Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <philmd@redhat.com>,
	"Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>
Cc: "Kevin Wolf" <kwolf@redhat.com>,
	"Tobin Feldman-Fitzthum" <tobin@ibm.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, "Stefan Hajnoczi" <stefanha@redhat.com>,
	"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"Alex Bennée" <alex.bennee@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/4] Add support for SafeStack
Date: Wed, 13 May 2020 10:48:04 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7f6916f8-c559-ebae-e6b2-75083f3ff2e5@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c6ac2d0e-34bf-9927-f2fe-2ef0408dcbfb@redhat.com>

Hello everybody, just pinging since it it's been a few days.

On 5/5/2020 9:56 AM, Philippe Mathieu-Daudé wrote:
> On 5/5/20 3:31 PM, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
>> On Tue, May 05, 2020 at 03:15:18PM +0200, Philippe Mathieu-Daudé wrote:
>>> +Alex & Daniel who keep track on CI stuff.
>>>
>>> On 4/29/20 9:44 PM, Daniele Buono wrote:
>>>> LLVM supports SafeStack instrumentation to protect against stack buffer
>>>> overflows, since version 3.7
>>>>
>>>>   From https://clang.llvm.org/docs/SafeStack.html:
>>>> "It works by separating the program stack into two distinct regions: 
>>>> the
>>>> safe stack and the unsafe stack. The safe stack stores return 
>>>> addresses,
>>>> register spills, and local variables that are always accessed in a safe
>>>> way, while the unsafe stack stores everything else. This separation
>>>> ensures that buffer overflows on the unsafe stack cannot be used to
>>>> overwrite anything on the safe stack."
>>>>
>>>> Unfortunately, the use of two stack regions does not cope well with
>>>> QEMU's coroutines. The second stack region is not properly set up with
>>>> both ucontext and sigaltstack, so multiple coroutines end up sharing 
>>>> the
>>>> same memory area for the unsafe stack, causing undefined behaviors at
>>>> runtime (and most iochecks to fail).
>>>>
>>>> This patch series fixes the implementation of the ucontext backend and
>>>> make sure that sigaltstack is never used if the compiler is applying
>>>> the SafeStack instrumentation. It also adds a configure flag to enable
>>>> SafeStack, and enables iotests when SafeStack is used.
>>>>
>>>> This is an RFC mainly because of the low-level use of the SafeStack
>>>> runtime.
>>>> When running swapcontext(), we have to manually set the unsafe stack
>>>> pointer to the new area allocated for the coroutine. LLVM does not 
>>>> allow
>>>> this by using builtin, so we have to use implementation details that 
>>>> may
>>>> change in the future.
>>>> This patch has been tested briefly ( make check on an x86 system ) with
>>>> clang v3.9, v4.0, v5.0, v6.0
>>>> Heavier testing, with make check-acceptance has been performed with
>>>> clang v7.0
>>>
>>> I noticed building using SafeStack is slower, and running with it is 
>>> even
>>> sloooower. It makes sense to have this integrated if we use it 
>>> regularly. Do
>>> you have plan for this? Using public CI doesn't seem reasonable.
>>
>> The runtime behaviour is rather odd, given the docs they provide:
>>
>> "The performance overhead of the SafeStack instrumentation is
>>   less than 0.1% on average across a variety of benchmarks
>>   This is mainly because most small functions do not have any
>>   variables that require the unsafe stack and, hence, do not
>>   need unsafe stack frames to be created. The cost of creating
>>   unsafe stack frames for large functions is amortized by the
>>   cost of executing the function.
>>
>>    In some cases, SafeStack actually improves the performance"
> 
> I'm sorry I was testing this with a single core instead of all of 
> them... Thanks for looking at the doc.
> 
>>
>> Regards,
>> Daniel
>>
> 
> 


  reply	other threads:[~2020-05-13 15:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-04-29 19:44 [PATCH 0/4] Add support for SafeStack Daniele Buono
2020-04-29 19:44 ` [PATCH 1/4] coroutine: support SafeStack in ucontext backend Daniele Buono
2020-05-21  9:44   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2020-05-22 15:18     ` Daniele Buono
2020-05-27 10:34       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2020-04-29 19:44 ` [PATCH 2/4] coroutine: Add check for SafeStack in sigalstack Daniele Buono
2020-05-04 14:56   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2020-05-21  9:49   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2020-05-27 17:56     ` Daniele Buono
2020-04-29 19:44 ` [PATCH 3/4] configure: add flag to enable SafeStack Daniele Buono
2020-05-21  9:52   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2020-05-22 15:24     ` Daniele Buono
2020-05-27 11:12       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2020-05-27 13:48         ` Daniele Buono
2020-04-29 19:44 ` [PATCH 4/4] check-block: Enable iotests with SafeStack Daniele Buono
2020-05-21  9:59   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2020-05-22 15:35     ` Daniele Buono
2020-05-27 11:13       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2020-05-04 14:55 ` [PATCH 0/4] Add support for SafeStack Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2020-05-05 13:15 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2020-05-05 13:31   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-05-05 13:56     ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2020-05-13 14:48       ` Daniele Buono [this message]
2020-05-21 10:00         ` Stefan Hajnoczi

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