From: Avihai Horon <avihaih@nvidia.com>
To: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Cc: "Juraj Marcin" <jmarcin@redhat.com>,
"Kirti Wankhede" <kwankhede@nvidia.com>,
"Maciej S . Szmigiero" <mail@maciej.szmigiero.name>,
"Daniel P . Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>,
"Joao Martins" <joao.m.martins@oracle.com>,
"Alex Williamson" <alex@shazbot.org>,
"Yishai Hadas" <yishaih@nvidia.com>,
"Fabiano Rosas" <farosas@suse.de>,
"Pranav Tyagi" <prtyagi@redhat.com>,
"Zhiyi Guo" <zhguo@redhat.com>,
"Markus Armbruster" <armbru@redhat.com>,
"Cédric Le Goater" <clg@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 07/12] migration: Introduce stopcopy_bytes in save_query_pending()
Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2026 18:54:58 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <82b40877-482e-4dbe-add1-6e0cc4292ae7@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260319231302.123135-8-peterx@redhat.com>
On 3/20/2026 1:12 AM, Peter Xu wrote:
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>
>
> Allow modules to report data that can only be migrated after VM is stopped.
>
> When this concept is introduced, we will need to account stopcopy size to
> be part of pending_size as before.
>
> One thing to mention is, when there can be stopcopy size, it means the old
> "pending_size" may not always be able to reach low enough to kickoff an
> slow version of query sync. While it used to be almost guaranteed to
> happen because if we keep iterating, normally pending_size can go to zero
> for precopy-only because we assume everything reported can be migrated in
> precopy phase.
>
> So we need to make sure QEMU will kickoff a synchronized version of query
> pending when all precopy data is migrated too. This might be important to
> VFIO to keep making progress even if the downtime cannot yet be satisfied.
>
> So far, this patch should introduce no functional change, as no module yet
> report stopcopy size.
>
> This will pave way for VFIO to properly report its pending data sizes,
> which was actually buggy today. Will be done in follow up patches.
>
> Signed-off-by: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
> ---
> include/migration/register.h | 12 +++++++++
> migration/migration.c | 52 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++------
> migration/savevm.c | 7 +++--
> migration/trace-events | 2 +-
> 4 files changed, 62 insertions(+), 11 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/include/migration/register.h b/include/migration/register.h
> index 2320c3a981..3824958ba5 100644
> --- a/include/migration/register.h
> +++ b/include/migration/register.h
> @@ -17,12 +17,24 @@
> #include "hw/core/vmstate-if.h"
>
> typedef struct MigPendingData {
> + /*
> + * Modules can only update these fields in a query request via its
> + * save_query_pending() API.
> + */
Move comment to patch #5?
> /* How many bytes are pending for precopy / stopcopy? */
> uint64_t precopy_bytes;
> /* How many bytes are pending that can be transferred in postcopy? */
> uint64_t postcopy_bytes;
> + /* How many bytes that can only be transferred when VM stopped? */
> + uint64_t stopcopy_bytes;
Keep consistent phrasing?
/* Amount of pending bytes that can be transferred either in precopy or
stopcopy */
uint64_t precopy_bytes;
/* Amount of pending bytes that can be transferred in postcopy */
uint64_t postcopy_bytes;
/* Amount of pending bytes that can be transferred only in stopcopy */
uint64_t stopcopy_bytes;
> +
> + /*
> + * Modules should never update these fields.
> + */
Move comment to patch #5?
> /* Is this a fastpath query (which can be inaccurate)? */
> bool fastpath;
> + /* Total pending data */
> + uint64_t total_bytes;
> } MigPendingData ;
>
> /**
> diff --git a/migration/migration.c b/migration/migration.c
> index 99c4d09000..42facb16d1 100644
> --- a/migration/migration.c
> +++ b/migration/migration.c
> @@ -3198,6 +3198,44 @@ typedef enum {
> MIG_ITERATE_BREAK, /* Break the loop */
> } MigIterateState;
>
> +/* Are we ready to move to the next iteration phase? */
> +static bool migration_iteration_next_ready(MigrationState *s,
> + MigPendingData *pending)
> +{
> + /*
> + * If the estimated values already suggest us to switchover, mark this
> + * iteration finished, time to do a slow sync.
> + */
> + if (pending->total_bytes <= s->threshold_size) {
> + return true;
> + }
> +
> + /*
> + * Since we may have modules reporting stop-only data, we also want to
> + * re-query with slow mode if all precopy data is moved over. This
> + * will also mark the current iteration done.
> + *
> + * This could happen when e.g. a module (like, VFIO) reports stopcopy
> + * size too large so it will never yet satisfy the downtime with the
> + * current setup (above check). Here, slow version of re-query helps
> + * because we keep trying the best to move whatever we have.
> + */
> + if (pending->precopy_bytes == 0) {
> + return true;
> + }
> +
> + return false;
> +}
> +
> +static void migration_iteration_go_next(MigPendingData *pending)
> +{
> + /*
> + * Do a slow sync will achieve this. TODO: move RAM iteration code
> + * into the core layer.
> + */
> + qemu_savevm_query_pending(pending, false);
> +}
I think the iteration terminology here could be confusing, because these
two functions are called from migration_iteration_run() and they don't
refer to the same iteration concept.
How about migration_pass_next_ready/migration_pass_go_next?
Or migration_dirty_sync_ready/migration_dirty_sync?
Thanks.
> +
> /*
> * Return true if continue to the next iteration directly, false
> * otherwise.
> @@ -3209,12 +3247,10 @@ static MigIterateState migration_iteration_run(MigrationState *s)
> s->state == MIGRATION_STATUS_POSTCOPY_ACTIVE);
> bool can_switchover = migration_can_switchover(s);
> MigPendingData pending = { };
> - uint64_t pending_size;
> bool complete_ready;
>
> /* Fast path - get the estimated amount of pending data */
> qemu_savevm_query_pending(&pending, true);
> - pending_size = pending.precopy_bytes + pending.postcopy_bytes;
>
> if (in_postcopy) {
> /*
> @@ -3222,7 +3258,7 @@ static MigIterateState migration_iteration_run(MigrationState *s)
> * postcopy completion doesn't rely on can_switchover, because when
> * POSTCOPY_ACTIVE it means switchover already happened.
> */
> - complete_ready = !pending_size;
> + complete_ready = !pending.total_bytes;
> if (s->state == MIGRATION_STATUS_POSTCOPY_DEVICE &&
> (s->postcopy_package_loaded || complete_ready)) {
> /*
> @@ -3242,9 +3278,8 @@ static MigIterateState migration_iteration_run(MigrationState *s)
> * postcopy started, so ESTIMATE should always match with EXACT
> * during postcopy phase.
> */
> - if (pending_size <= s->threshold_size) {
> - qemu_savevm_query_pending(&pending, false);
> - pending_size = pending.precopy_bytes + pending.postcopy_bytes;
> + if (migration_iteration_next_ready(s, &pending)) {
> + migration_iteration_go_next(&pending);
> }
>
> /* Should we switch to postcopy now? */
> @@ -3264,11 +3299,12 @@ static MigIterateState migration_iteration_run(MigrationState *s)
> * (2) Pending size is no more than the threshold specified
> * (which was calculated from expected downtime)
> */
> - complete_ready = can_switchover && (pending_size <= s->threshold_size);
> + complete_ready = can_switchover &&
> + (pending.total_bytes <= s->threshold_size);
> }
>
> if (complete_ready) {
> - trace_migration_thread_low_pending(pending_size);
> + trace_migration_thread_low_pending(pending.total_bytes);
> migration_completion(s);
> return MIG_ITERATE_BREAK;
> }
> diff --git a/migration/savevm.c b/migration/savevm.c
> index b3285d480f..812c72b3e5 100644
> --- a/migration/savevm.c
> +++ b/migration/savevm.c
> @@ -1766,8 +1766,7 @@ void qemu_savevm_query_pending(MigPendingData *pending, bool fastpath)
> {
> SaveStateEntry *se;
>
> - pending->precopy_bytes = 0;
> - pending->postcopy_bytes = 0;
> + memset(pending, 0, sizeof(*pending));
> pending->fastpath = fastpath;
>
> QTAILQ_FOREACH(se, &savevm_state.handlers, entry) {
> @@ -1780,7 +1779,11 @@ void qemu_savevm_query_pending(MigPendingData *pending, bool fastpath)
> se->ops->save_query_pending(se->opaque, pending);
> }
>
> + pending->total_bytes = pending->precopy_bytes +
> + pending->stopcopy_bytes + pending->postcopy_bytes;
> +
> trace_qemu_savevm_query_pending(fastpath, pending->precopy_bytes,
> + pending->stopcopy_bytes,
> pending->postcopy_bytes);
> }
>
> diff --git a/migration/trace-events b/migration/trace-events
> index 5f836a8652..175f09f8ad 100644
> --- a/migration/trace-events
> +++ b/migration/trace-events
> @@ -7,7 +7,7 @@ qemu_loadvm_state_section_partend(uint32_t section_id) "%u"
> qemu_loadvm_state_post_main(int ret) "%d"
> qemu_loadvm_state_section_startfull(uint32_t section_id, const char *idstr, uint32_t instance_id, uint32_t version_id) "%u(%s) %u %u"
> qemu_savevm_send_packaged(void) ""
> -qemu_savevm_query_pending(bool fast, uint64_t precopy, uint64_t postcopy) "fast=%d, precopy=%"PRIu64", postcopy=%"PRIu64
> +qemu_savevm_query_pending(bool fast, uint64_t precopy, uint64_t stopcopy, uint64_t postcopy) "fast=%d, precopy=%"PRIu64", stopcopy=%"PRIu64", postcopy=%"PRIu64
> loadvm_state_switchover_ack_needed(unsigned int switchover_ack_pending_num) "Switchover ack pending num=%u"
> loadvm_state_setup(void) ""
> loadvm_state_cleanup(void) ""
> --
> 2.50.1
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-03-25 16:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-03-19 23:12 [PATCH RFC 00/12] migration/vfio: Fix a few issues on API misuse or statistic reports Peter Xu
2026-03-19 23:12 ` [PATCH RFC 01/12] migration: Fix low possibility downtime violation Peter Xu
2026-03-20 12:26 ` Prasad Pandit
2026-03-19 23:12 ` [PATCH RFC 02/12] migration/qapi: Rename MigrationStats to MigrationRAMStats Peter Xu
2026-03-19 23:26 ` Peter Xu
2026-03-20 6:54 ` Markus Armbruster
2026-03-19 23:12 ` [PATCH RFC 03/12] vfio/migration: Throttle vfio_save_block() on data size to read Peter Xu
2026-03-25 14:10 ` Avihai Horon
2026-03-19 23:12 ` [PATCH RFC 04/12] vfio/migration: Cache stop size in VFIOMigration Peter Xu
2026-03-25 14:15 ` Avihai Horon
2026-03-19 23:12 ` [PATCH RFC 05/12] migration/treewide: Merge @state_pending_{exact|estimate} APIs Peter Xu
2026-03-24 10:35 ` Prasad Pandit
2026-03-25 15:20 ` Avihai Horon
2026-03-19 23:12 ` [PATCH RFC 06/12] migration: Use the new save_query_pending() API directly Peter Xu
2026-03-24 9:35 ` Prasad Pandit
2026-03-19 23:12 ` [PATCH RFC 07/12] migration: Introduce stopcopy_bytes in save_query_pending() Peter Xu
2026-03-24 11:05 ` Prasad Pandit
2026-03-25 16:54 ` Avihai Horon [this message]
2026-03-19 23:12 ` [PATCH RFC 08/12] vfio/migration: Fix incorrect reporting for VFIO pending data Peter Xu
2026-03-25 17:32 ` Avihai Horon
2026-03-19 23:12 ` [PATCH RFC 09/12] migration: Make iteration counter out of RAM Peter Xu
2026-03-20 6:12 ` Yong Huang
2026-03-20 9:49 ` Prasad Pandit
2026-03-19 23:13 ` [PATCH RFC 10/12] migration: Introduce a helper to return switchover bw estimate Peter Xu
2026-03-23 10:26 ` Prasad Pandit
2026-03-19 23:13 ` [PATCH RFC 11/12] migration: Calculate expected downtime on demand Peter Xu
2026-03-19 23:13 ` [PATCH RFC 12/12] migration: Fix calculation of expected_downtime to take VFIO info Peter Xu
2026-03-23 12:05 ` Prasad Pandit
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